Tools, Glorious Tools! #10 (Part 1) - Shop Made Gear Cutters - The Sharpening Tool
Added 2020-04-30 03:39:29 +0000 UTCHi Folks,
What started out as a minor excursion prior to working on Patron Series 3 has evolved into a little mini-series on shop made gear cutters - do please enjoy Part 1! (Sharpener drawings to follow shortly) [EDIT - Drawings now available below, at the bottom of the text]
Cheers,
Chris.
Other updates: Work continues on the new platform - We are hoping to have something ready for the first set of Mentors to beta test inside 10 days and I will keep you posted on how we go. In the meantime, keep accumulating those project shots, CAD files, drawings, videos etc so that you can hit the ground running with it once it goes live.
No news on the paper - we're still in review, so nothing much to report other than that I will let you know as soon as anything changes.
Discord - The Sunday Discord chats have been terrific fun and are now a regular event - If you've not yet dropped in, do try to come along this Sunday at 22:00 GMT. Lots of sharing of weekly pics, knowledge, and project updates from around the globe. (How to connect to the Clickspring Discord: support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-How-do-I-receive-my-Discord-role- )
Lastly, the survey data has been excellent in guiding the direction of the new platform - if you've not yet filled it out, it will only take a minute or two and can be found here: http://unf.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9sHv2VtB0I3DMxL
Direct links to the video -
Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/413385055/8420c07d6b
Youtube: https://youtu.be/l0qpH47UWdc
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Some top resources on Gear Theory!
John Stevenson's Blog Post - http://metalwebnews.com/howto/gear/gear1.html
WO Davis – “Gears For Small Mechanisms”: https://amzn.to/2Yj2Ben
JM Wild - "Wheel & Pinion Cutting in Horology": http://amzn.to/2HI6ca9
"Gears and Gear Cutting", Ivan Law: http://amzn.to/2FKmaUI
Tony's gear videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-XOM4E4RZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds6qZ7Ss2fA
Stefan on the subject of sharpening, and a discussion on profile error: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sxq5khqeWI
Mr Pete's Gear Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMhYuXx35Ik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12sdMFr5CNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lPNqn8LU4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQVUI1YhN0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXU-URNdUFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dipd0ohrYzg
Andy Pugh's Gear hobbing video's:
"The Watchmakers' Lathe " Ward Goodrich - https://amzn.to/2Wijchr
Hugh Sparks - https://www.csparks.com/watchmaking/CycloidalGears/index.jxl
"The Clock & Watch Makers Guide to Gear Making" Porter - https://amzn.to/2xuFP7I
Online Gear Generator: https://geargenerator.com/
Alan Pinkus’s Gear Generator - http://www.micro-machine-shop.com/gears.htm#Gearotic_Motion
Matthias Wandels gear generator: https://woodgears.ca/gear_cutting/template.html
(Amazon Affiliate links)
Cameras:
Panasonic GH5 - https://amzn.to/2rEzhh2
Panasonic X920 - https://amzn.to/2wzxxdT
Books:
"Wheel & Pinion Cutting in Horology": http://amzn.to/2HI6ca9
"Solidworks 2013 Bible": http://amzn.to/2FObS1D
WO Davis – “Gears For Small Mechanisms”: https://amzn.to/2Yj2Ben
"Workshop practice Series": https://amzn.to/2WgeGh0
Tools & Shop Products:
Optivisor Headband Magnifier: http://amzn.to/2HFg1FU
Norton 1-by-2-by-8-Inch Fine/Coarse India Combination Oilstone, Red: http://amzn.to/2tTEPb0
Hegner Scroll Saw: https://amzn.to/2IhteVW
Digital Caliper 6 inch/150 mm Electronic Vernier Calipers: https://amzn.to/2EArNRU
Generic Dial Indicator 0.001": http://amzn.to/2FOFTyF
Interapid Dial Test Indicator: http://amzn.to/2FPInwH
Saint Gobain (Norton) - 4 Arkansas Stones + case: http://amzn.to/2HCOAMX
Dormer A190202 Jobber Drill Set, 1.0 mm - 6.0 mm x 0.1 mm Size: https://amzn.to/2DR5fdb
Dormer A190203 Jobber Drill Set, 6.0 mm - 10.0 mm x 0.1 mm Size: https://amzn.to/2ITfeTa
YG1 NC Spotting Drill 8% Cobalt HSS 1/8 to 1/2" 120 Degree 5 Pc Set CNC Machine: https://amzn.to/2G7ylv6
Hegner Scroll Saw: https://amzn.to/2IhteVW
Blazer GB2001 Self-Igniting Butane Micro-Torch: https://amzn.to/3f5Gzlh
Magnetic Base Adjustable Metal Test Indicator Holder Digital Level 14" - Tool Stand: https://amzn.to/2PkyoTV
Anytime Tools Angle Block Set 1°, 2°, 3°, 4°, 5°, 10°, 15°, 20°, 25°, 30° Precision +/- 20 Seconds, Machinist Tool, 10 Piece Set: https://amzn.to/2QFqM2Y
Consumables:
Super Pike Saw Blades Size 3/0 pkg of 144: https://amzn.to/2uI0QdT
Blue Matador Abrasive Paper: https://amzn.to/2IAFiBT
Bergeon Professional Cleaning Rodico: https://amzn.to/2NwcM6y
Comments
So I have a question/idea about the buttons. Could one perhaps mill a small flat on the back of the button head before cutting the 15 degree face, thus allowing the use of a precision square to take the guesswork out of rotating the buttons to 45 degrees in the tool body?
Benjamin Marn
2024-12-11 19:08:06 +0000 UTCG'day Rod, its an excel spreadsheet so you will need excel or the free excel viewer - Cheers :)
Clickspring
2023-03-07 20:59:10 +0000 UTCIn trying to open the Cutter Calculator I get told there is no App available in my country. What am I doing wrong, I'm not real handy with computers~
Rod Cole
2023-03-07 16:59:36 +0000 UTCgreat reference site, thanks even if most of it is difficult to source is Aus
David Paterson
2020-05-12 07:27:54 +0000 UTCThanks Daniel, good info - I have edited my answer above to better reflect the point that I wanted to make: that we're talking about conducting the process in the home shop with common tools and simple heat treating - Cheers :)
Clickspring
2020-05-08 20:23:03 +0000 UTCHigh speed steel can bee annealed, and then machined similar to tool steel (machinability though is not as good) then heat treated to harden. However, the temperatures and times at heat as well as techniques are different. Good technical data at http://www.crucible.com/eselector/prodbyapp/highspeed/rexm42.html for the M42 HHS. Data for many other steels, both HHS and carbon steels are also available.
Daniel J Bostrom
2020-05-08 17:53:49 +0000 UTCMany thanks mate, it looks like a sweet little tool, thank you :)
Clickspring
2020-05-03 00:33:20 +0000 UTCI've found the article and have put it up on the Discord channel.
Jeff Armstrong
2020-05-03 00:15:05 +0000 UTCHello mate - There are quite a few high carbon tool steels to choose from, although O1 tends to be a fairly good all round performer. Not to be confused with HSS though. High carbon tool steels possess the key attribute of being able to be easily formed into delicate, complex shapes in the annealed state using common machine tools, and then hardened with a simple oil quench. However working and heat treating HSS usually falls outside the scope of the home shop. If the requirement is a profile that can be formed straight off the grinding wheel, then HSS is terrific. However if its something more complex (and the shop has the common forming tools like a lathe and mill) then carbon steels are an easy solution - Cheers :) [EDIT - edited to clarify the point that we're aiming for processes that are easy to implement in the home shop]
Clickspring
2020-05-01 20:16:21 +0000 UTCI am so excited for this new series on making your own gear cutters. You said in the video that you are using O1 tool steel to make the cutters and you also mentioned that the steel choice makes for lower quality and lighter duty cutters. My question is if using a different type of tool steel would result in a higher quality cutter or if you already chose the best steel for the job. Also, I found 6x25mm and 10x40mm hss bars 200mm long on ebay for under 20 US dollars , I don't know if those are large enough to make the cutter out of, but it would be cool if you could cheaply make your own hss gear cutters.
Ryan Johnson
2020-05-01 18:33:27 +0000 UTCHello mate - In principle, yes - although the main challenge of forming a profile cutter is getting that profile to be exactly what you need it to be. The beauty of a tool steel based process is that you can work the steel in the annealed state very easily (as you will see in the next video), and then transform it into the martensitic state with a very straight forward heat treating processes - Cheers :)
Clickspring
2020-05-01 03:24:39 +0000 UTCNice design and great video. This might be a silly question (I haven't used a lathe or mill since High School) Could you make gear cutters using carbide inserts or are the forces involved too much for something as brittle as carbides???
John Gentzel
2020-05-01 03:19:53 +0000 UTCGreat to be back Chuck, Cheers :)
Clickspring
2020-05-01 03:17:43 +0000 UTCThank you mate, you too :)
Clickspring
2020-05-01 03:17:29 +0000 UTCWell, there you are. I thought maybe Tony stabbed his voodoo doll in the wrong place and you had perished. Glad to see you back!!
Chuck Kirchner
2020-05-01 00:40:23 +0000 UTCCheers Gary, you too :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 19:51:53 +0000 UTCThank you mate!
Clickspring
2020-04-30 19:51:44 +0000 UTCHi Alisa, I use Loctite 603 retaining compound - specs here: https://tdsna.henkel.com/americas/na/adhesives/hnauttds.nsf/web/4A89537CE4638581882571870000D851/$File/603-EN.pdf - Cheers :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 19:51:24 +0000 UTCHa ha! Awesome mate :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 19:46:38 +0000 UTCCheers mate :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 19:46:15 +0000 UTCYay, a new video with new content from Chris! Glad to see you haven’t gotten rusty. And it’s too bad the review process is anonymous. I suspect there are a few thousand angry Clickspring viewers that would happily storm their residences to get this thing published! Stay safe, though your PM seems to be doing a bang up job and making the right calls.
Brad Thayer
2020-04-30 16:36:28 +0000 UTCGreat Video Chris. Always learn something. Keep safe.
Gary Knight
2020-04-30 15:52:21 +0000 UTCGreat vid thanks a lot for making this and I look forward to seeing future video's in the series, Nice gratuitous bling aswel 😁
Mark Hobster
2020-04-30 15:29:50 +0000 UTCWhat threadlok do you use?
Alisa Amiella
2020-04-30 12:13:35 +0000 UTCIt's in a hard copy that I need to scan anyway so it could take a while to find. I'll put it up over on Discord when I find it - don't hold your breath though!
Jeff Armstrong
2020-04-30 11:55:09 +0000 UTCWow! Will be watching this again soon; was mesmerized by the visuals, and not paying as much attention to what you were saying first time through :D I'm also very tired, so that's my other excuse. Gear/Wheel making is one of my top of the list 'want to' skills (as it *is* the foundation of watchmaking and automatons) , along with making a set of very fine needle files........never knew I wanted to make those before your video on case hardening and file making :)
Duncan Luddite
2020-04-30 11:35:47 +0000 UTCThis is so spectacular and such a pleasure to watch! Your videos and the Sunday chats are always so encouraging to the rest of us, at whatever level of skill we happen to have. Thanks again!
John S Dilsaver
2020-04-30 11:33:09 +0000 UTCAnd may a thousand gear projects bloom :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 09:14:03 +0000 UTCHa ha! Cheers mate :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 09:13:33 +0000 UTCMe too :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 09:13:15 +0000 UTCAs always a great video. Really looking forward to the rest of this series. Anything that makes gear cutting more accessible is fantastic. The excuses to not do this are getting shorter and shorter
Paul Busby
2020-04-30 09:11:33 +0000 UTCTHE GLORIOUS RETURN OF CLICKSPRING!
John P
2020-04-30 09:08:36 +0000 UTCI still just see pikachu
Peter Kransz
2020-04-30 08:18:07 +0000 UTCAh very good! Have added them to the gear links above :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 07:47:24 +0000 UTCAlso: Not i the spirit of your working methods, and blatant self-publicising, but my own YouTube video on gear hobbing (ie with a spiral gear hob) with a mini-mill has proved surprisingly popular https://youtu.be/ZhICrb0Tbn4 Though since that I have improved both my video production and my machinery: https://youtu.be/xdE46yvckbM
Andy Pugh
2020-04-30 07:40:52 +0000 UTCHa ha! Very good :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 07:30:43 +0000 UTCWell the tables have turned, my dad is always over asking me to make / fix bits and bobs for him. Now I get to yell when he doesn’t put things away 😆
Iain Deas
2020-04-30 07:26:03 +0000 UTCHello mate - No kids, but I would have loved that too!
Clickspring
2020-04-30 07:21:27 +0000 UTCThat would be good to see - please do Jeff :)
Clickspring
2020-04-30 06:56:32 +0000 UTCNo sooner had I started rewatching the clock build and then this little gem 😊 I remember in an old video you mentioned being away with the family, do your kids have any interest in your machine shop? I’d have loved this as a kid!
Iain Deas
2020-04-30 06:50:56 +0000 UTCSo now we know what the strangely shaped piece of aluminium is for. A problem I have is sharpening the smaller drills (less than 1mm) but there is a good jig for that. I'll see if I can look out the drawing I have for one that holds small drills (down to about No 50) at the correct angles to sharpen these.
Jeff Armstrong
2020-04-30 04:28:23 +0000 UTC
