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EP. 139 | The Firehawks

The (probable) predecessors to the Legion of the Damned; Vengeful, Ruthless, Faithful. Today we analyze the history and antics of the Chapter that is most likely to have become the Legion of the Damned in an effort to get a deeper understanding of why the Legion of the Damned are the way we see them today.

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EP. 139 | The Firehawks

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Kraaibaby

Hot take anyone vs melee 40k unit has elected to receive a loss

DYLAN MONTGOMERY

Build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

Jakob Hjorth Hansen

Wouldn't it also melt a spacemarine? My point being, are both in possession of weapons that can destroy themself as well as the other?

Jakob Hjorth Hansen

Space marines take worlds, I know we spend a lot of money in the military but think about how much money the emperor of man kind spends fielding marines

Nobody

New Trend: “5 hour Coverage of the Unification Wars” Copy and paste this everywhere.

Dante

Cool vid bre

Tzeentch

I would like to bring up a few counter points. 1: if I am not mistaken, space marine armor is stronger then Mordern day tank armor. It has to be to stand up to the things space marines have to stand up to. So while I agree that the depleted uranium round would turn any space marine into Gaz. I don’t believe the 50. Cal will, without out sustained fire on a single spot. 2: a standard lasgun can punch throguh like a meter of concrete and the bolt gun appears to be more powerful then those (from how I understood it) so it should be able to at least put some holes in the tank. 3: the marine could definitely rip the tank open if he got close 4: unless the tank gets the element of surprise, I don’t think they will be able to hit the marine with the main canon just because of how fast a marine can move and how fast they can react to thinks. It would be like trying to hit a fly with a nerf gun. It could happen, but good fucking luck But that is just my thoughts on it, if you got any counter points I would love to hear em

Janitor Dragon

Respectfully, a single space marine could body any one thing the us military fields. A melta gun would annihilate a modern M1 abrahms

VanessaG

I agree. Respectfully Koda, you gotta let the man cook sometimes. Isyander is very eloquent when he explains certain things with a deliberate flow and it discombobulates me when it gets disrupted.

MightyEggroll

I respectfully disagree but everyone is entitled to their option and I understand and respect yours.

John Corica

The game is a pitiful shell of what it was. I would love too but the game is so dogshit I want to commit acts of violence against Bungie. The story is what made the gameplay fantastic and immersive. That game was my first ever Xbox game. Now its like watching your childhood bestfriend get really into Fentanyl and he keeps inviting you to his trap house to play Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on the PS2. Sorry bro.

MightyEggroll

Ulrik The Slayer Space Wolves Wolf priest

Scareborne

Depleted uranium isn't radioactive, it's inert, just heavy as fuck

Kyle Strickland

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Clayland lewis

Yes. Tanks, especially Abrahams, have extremely accurate optics that allow for accurate fire, even when the tank is on the move; if it can target vichicles moving at 60 mph speeds it can hit a Space Marine. It has been frustrating to see us move away from armor. Even a line squad would give headaches to a lone Space Marine with all of the anti armor assets we've been plusing into the squad and team level. Im not saying a squad would win, but we'd give it a real headache. But, tanks move with a platoon. Platoons have weapons attachments like 240s and MAAWS. 240s may not cut it but a MAAW shot is at very least immobilizing whatever it hits. Abrahams have 50s and M19s on top so if its not moving its getting a lead and HE shower.

Nic Gucwa

Also Koda I appreciate that, "the imperiums VA is just as bad as the US's VA" joke lmfao. it's so true it hurts.

Nick N

As a Marine Corps vet, normal 40mm grenade launcher rounds, which are essentially bolter rounds, aren't going to penetrate most spots on a modern tank at a normal shooting distance. However, that doesn't mean the concussion isn't going to rock and disorient the crew. That said, a tank round and 50 cal rounds are a good way to probably take out a space marine assuming their armor is less than or equal to a modern battle tank like the Abrams. I mean I believe off the top of my head it's something ridiculous like 210mm's of modern tank armor can be penetrated by a depleted uranium tank round even at a 45 degree angle and the angles matter a lot when it comes to penetrate armor. Now whether the tank crew would win or the space Marine in a 1 v 1 would depend entirely on the distance between the two. If the Space Marine can get on top of that tank and close that gap. He could probably just wait out the crew or at point blank range with the bolter be able to penetrate certain spots on the tank. However, this all depends on the munitions that you're giving this space Marine. Plasma weaponry, meltaguns, and power weapons are going to win most likely. But I would say a Marine on a 50 cal would have a chance against a space marine. Not a great one. but a chance none the less. the Ma Deuce (M2 50 Cal) is quite a weapon and can penetrate light armored vehicles even without fancy rounds. that's my 2 cents.

Nick N

Anyone who plays destiny 2 please add me I need raid buddies 😔 TheRedKing#2978

John Corica

🪙🧑‍🏭

Hungry Dingo

Also shout out to Peter turbo we stay petty we stay mad we stay burning the village

Hungry Dingo

Koda I love you but please don’t be the guy that tries to punch the joke before it lands let Isyander cook even if you know where it ends if not for the sake of him bye for the sake of the viewers cause it’s very clever and very curated for fans like me. I paid my last 5 dollars for these joke so let Isyander say the punch line for my sake

Hungry Dingo

For the next vote, we should get another "Oops, all Chaos" vote. This time featuring: - Fabius Bile - The man unknowingly playing hard-to-get with Slaanesh - Vashtorr - The demon giving Peter Turbo more fatherly love then Big E - Lotara Sarrin - The only woman to dominate the Blue Boy Scout and have him come back for seconds - Huron Blackheart - The man that fought the law, and the law won

SilkyZ

I need crimson fists please i beg of you

Captain Iggy

I want an archs of omen era lion el' Johnson video cause my favorite primarch has really had a glow up both aesthetically and mentally.

John Corica

Waiting on the episodes on the primarchs themselves any primarch

Dock Powell

Celestial lions

Neil

I dont think a SM would have any issues with a modern US Abrams tank. A devent plasma/melta shot would take it out in 1-3 hits. And unless the tank surprises the SM its unlikely to land a hit. The hit would prolly mess the SM up pretty good if not kill it, but with how fast they are the tank has horrible chances to land that hit.

Gimbii

Who’s laying claim to those tears from the bell tolling, and what do you suppose they do with them? I’m interested in any speculation but also I&K feel free to add this to the roundup if you can because while I’m sure it’s something that there’s no definitive answer for, you know if those tears are real there’s no way they don’t use them for something.

DrMcNinja

The Ancient Awaits

Hunter of The

*hears the astral claws have gone rogue* “WHERE THE FUCK IS HURON?!”

Conail Sauter

I could be wrong but I’d say what about a meltagun?

Idlesoda

Another thing to note would be with or without power armor, in a few videos I've heard of Space Marines ripping off hatches and I'm reasonably confident that they would be able to clear tanks one by one if they get close enough. Or at least remove them from effective combat.

Lord Abraxas

I am Alpharius and this is a lie

Rowboat Guillotine

The nurgle jar would be funny

tanner credeur

USMC POG here. Most marines are also not alone. And question do you think with the mobility of a marine on the move the tank could get a target? Honestly asking what do you think. I was an ammo tech so I never got to actually play with any of our fun toys.

Justin Chadwick

US marine here. I’m not a tanker however I believe that a tank gun is great at hitting long shots and hitting hard targets. However a small ‘compared to another thank’ and fast moving. A modern tank would have a hard time hitting a space marines moving at a run. Then if you have a krak or melta bomb in the right place. Should not be a problem

Justin Chadwick

Would also like to see the losers bracket called the Nurgle jar

Feeling-cheeky

This is a petition to make Isyander call the loser's bracket the Nurgle Jar

Rowboat Guillotine

So this is cool and all, but I can't help but notice that it isn't an Alpha Legion episode. Hydra Dominatus!

CarmenSanAndreas

Vote down against minotaurs!!!

Sam Smith

Lets get the minotaurs. Asterion moloc is based

Big Tony

Minotaurs please

jetilley973

Bloodravens need their own episode.

Nic Gucwa

I NEED BIG E…please

HMthree

I am Alpharius

apicado

I humbly request the minotaur's please

Rubberpirate18 Show

but also don't hurt my 50-thousand honda craft world

Hungry Dingo

GIMME FUEL GIMEM FIRE GIMME THAT WITCH I DESIRE

Hungry Dingo

I need to see koda react to Moloc

Travis Stephens

To be fair to the "Firehawks = LotD" idea, it could be "All of the Above." I.e. The LotD already existed, like, to a lesser degree, but an entire chapter going down all at once boosted their numbers.

Wesley Marvin

Crimson fists, and -1 to the Minotaurs 😈

Lone hiker

6:00, "without leaking cla_" IS THAT A FUCKING CHALLENGE?

THE EMERALD FUCKER

Another great episode, lads. But the children all bay for Frylanor!!

Figurative Bandit

We NEED a Badab War special

SilkyZ

14:35 ....Koda.... did you just Proof of a Hero us? Good on you.

shane w

Minotaurs, and -1 to the Crimson fists :3

Chi The Legend

Javelin Rocket Launcher > Space Marine

George Hall

They've proven that depleted uranium doesn't cause cancer, it sounds much scarier than it is. I also believe that depleted uranium isn't used quite as much as everyone thinks it is. I might be wrong about the quantity of use but I'm positive that the uranium aspect doesn't cause cancer

Ashten Green

Celestial Lions !

Francisco Fernandez

Give me the Mini Tartare sauce chapter!!!🐃🐃

Ultra_P8

GORK and MORK are calling the boyz need sum more of da green boys slaping all the gits about.

Theonewholives 5

CELESTIAL LIONS, or literally anyone but the Minotaurs

I am Alpharius, maybe

Minotaurs

Samuel Apgar

Minotaurs would be nice. (Maybe their gene father) Let's send them some love. (Especially their chapter master) Lamenters better start running.

Blaztex Davis

You know what the people would love! A solution to the crisis of life, try crisis suits

Samuel McLellan

One of the few Chapters to ever impress Grimaldus of the Black Templars, Celestial Lions!

Defesh mael

The Turtles will come. If they shall not I guess the Minotaurs can.

Brock Hard For Geodudes- look at that it looks like two balls and a bong!

Hi there. USMC infantry here. An Abrahams would work a single Space Marine. Besides the armor you have a whole series of weapons and defensive tools that would give Space Marines issues. But what does it for me is there are ALWAYS at least 2 tanks as they never deploy alone, and they have infantry escorts always. I love Warhammer but space marine armor is not stopping a MAAW rocket, let alone an Abraham's cannon. Even if there is magic and the armor isn't breached, the kinetic impact of either is turning him to goo inside the armor no matter how augmented they are. The Space Marines will need a terminator or several meltas, with at least a squad+ of support.

Nic Gucwa

Can we get an episode on the mealstrom wardens? And one on the bloodravens. Also consider this the obligatory vote for the 12 hour heresy episode

Marius Kröll

Still praying to big e that Death Watch will get their day in the sun

John Corica

"Warp Entity" is maybe a better description than "Daemon"? All Daemons are Warp Entities, but not all Warp Entities are Daemons. The list on non-Daemon Warp Entities would also include things like the Enslavers.

Johannes Eyjolfsson

Wh....what episode got the FBI looking at them sriehiguerh

Red

This would be fascinating and fantastic

Part time cowboy

Did y’all get a seltzer sponsor 😂

Part time cowboy

12 hours of Horus

Sebastian Martinez

A space marine chapter would have it's work cut out for them vs America military (slightly biased) but id say 50/50 now i say this bc every once in awhile a squad of space marines might lose but eventually over time USA wins on manpower. (No nukes or rednecks were calculated in this equation)

Too_Spooky

Minotaurs 😈

MudBoy

I really want a full "before the imperium" poll. options being: Men of Iron, war in heaven, unification wars and/or thunder warriors, age of strife and/or dark age of technology. I've seen a few people asking for Men of Iron and I feel like some of these would pair well with them in the polling. I'm pretty sure y'all have done some "newest stuff in 40k" videos, maybe it's time for an oldest stuff poll.

Slater Davis

I still want more info on the badhab war and the astral claws but still prioritize your guys health since I just joined the patreon and found out about the stuff going on . The collection might be a little out of date but I don’t mind scrolling as long as you guys are healthy. The emperor needs his finest for the 12hr heresy video.

GodzillaDoom2

We we obviously need and everyone has been waiting for is an episode on is The Foods in Warhammer 40k ! Also what is yalls favorite kind of cheese !?

Travis Poe

Crimson Fists please and thank you. Or a 12 hour Horussy episode

Grenawd

So I do think that a single Space Marine would have trouble with an Abrams. About the only effective weapon they would have is a power sword, as the bolter's .75 caliber, (around 20mm), wouldn't be able to penetrative any of the armor, and strong as they are, it's not like they can just throw 70ish tons of tank. Also, any injuries sustained during field testing of this theory are classified, and therefore, not service related.

Dean Brandt

#24HoursOfHorussy

Jesse LeCompte

celestial lions

Antii001

No MINOTAURS

William

So instead of imperium Demons would the word Daemon be more applicable?

Nicholas SAno

"Burn them all, God will know His own" is a pseudohistorical quote from the Albigensian Crusade! The Crusade was countering the supposed Cathar heretic movement in southern France. The town of Beziers was besieged by crusaders and this quote is accredited to the Crusader Commander of the siege. Historians don't know if this is a true quote as we only have a single reference ( I believe). However some historians still bring it up for, by all accounts of the siege itself, the Crusaders executed everyone in the town for being either a Heretic or an accomplice to harboring the heretics by resisting the crusader siege. -Take it from a dude with two history degrees. Hope this contextualizes this bit of historical trivia for folks :)

Patrick Czichas

Crimson Fist!!! I want to see if Koda can figure out if the land Raider is sentient or not and Men of Iron Episode.

Poptarts

We have determined your cancer is not service related

Bleier Austin

Also 2nd pick is lions

Nilloc

Minotaur Please! Space Greeks are awesome.

KriscoBubber

Minotaurs please! I also love the dodgy lore in this founding!

Nilloc

A nice cold glass of Dark Kraken water (sponsored by Dasani) would be nice to cool off with after this Firehawk episode

Purple Haze

Fire

Benjamin Sicard

I also double checked to make sure he didn’t tell me any military secrets before I posted it here 😂😂😂

Rambler107

Yeah I talked to a friend and he said it’s typically layered with things to mitigate anything like that, but that if you crash one a hazmat team is sent not a medical one. I’m referring to the M1 Abram’s not any friends I have in the grim dark future

Rambler107

Depleted uranium is so low in radiation that it's effectively sitting inside a tank for 8 hours is equivalent of getting 1/60 of a n x-ray.

Nicholas SAno

Men of iron episode! Or any of those ai machines that went bad in the dark age

John Burgoyne

crimson fists PLEASE

Easyus Prime

Also to be fair, Uranium dust is carcinogenic and neurotoxic due to it’s chemistry just like Lead and Mercury… just don’t chip or scratch the armor 😂

Alex Ryan

Crimson Fists are Alpha Legion! I want my Alpha Legion video!

George Hall

Depleted Uranium is a low alpha emitter, meaning that a thin coating of lead or even paint will stop the radiation. That being said, the VA will definitely deny our claims 😭

Alex Ryan

Minotaurs

TheLastBear5346

Let's see the minotaurs

Oops W

Imma leak shit

CandyCain

I vote for whichever topic sees the return of Poor Stooge. Or his bestest and most loyal friend in the whole Imperium, Ogryn Stooge

Bald Vengeance


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