[Salvos] 731. Break Free (Removed for KU)
Added 2024-10-22 17:54:34 +0000 UTC(Removed for KU)
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It's interesting how all those "brave" members of the faculty didn't think it would be a good idea to voice their displeasure with demons to Sally. I mean, I can understand how defacing the obelisk during the night feels much safer than insulting a lvl 150 to her face. :) Miserable rats, all.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 21:12:33 +0000 UTCA clone existing independently and developing her own mana system is quite noteworthy and will either level the skill or evolve it altogether. As for her fighting experience, considering Salvos' levels by then I wouldn't expect it to amount to much, but evolving the skill always brings additional exp.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 18:59:04 +0000 UTCI always stop everything to read
Użytkownik Przeciętny
2024-10-23 18:44:08 +0000 UTCRather small comparable to lower level
Użytkownik Przeciętny
2024-10-23 18:42:50 +0000 UTCNow that I think of it, I would really expect the metal sphere to identify as [Remnants of the Archangel] or something, the way skull of the Lich identified as [Remnants of Zacharius]. This would indicate that the Archangel somehow made it, or at least that we haven't seen the last of him. But if he's dead, it would be a terrible setback for our guys. They would lose a source of knowledge, power to solve problems and ability to transport back, all at once. Also, when I think of it, Trico has such a terrible advantage over anyone, by having established himself as Soli, that it's just shocking. It's like thinking you have some big power at your side and it turns out to be worse than Regnorex, much worse. I'm trying to think what his weak points are, if he even has any. He works like a hand in various gloves, which means he's hiding his participation in this, which means the revelation would harm him, which means he probably isn't allowed to do it, or has enemies who are after him. That would actually be expected, considering how he's been doing nothing but harm for eons, out of sheer boredom. So, his weakness is having to stay hidden and unknown. That only matters if there's someone nearby watching and ready to take action against him. Also, he doesn't know anything, and especially doesn't know the importance of things that have been set in motion, but haven't happened yet. This sounds nebulous, but he doesn't know that Salvos has Samuel's and Belphegor's memories, and if she's about to become a True God, he wouldn't know anything about that. To him, she is a non-entity, which means she can continue evolving undisturbed. This is essential, because if she is recognised as a threat too soon, she's dead. Security by obscurity. However, this is all abstract, and assumes that she will have a terrible burst in evolution before he manages to guide Regnorex through that damn ritual, because once he wrecks the Nexeus, the damage is too great for any of it to matter. This is a very tiny window of opportunity, and basically consists of Salvos either defeating Regnorex's army and himself within days, evolving at 190 and getting a True God evolution, and then beating Trico, because he's going to be there helping, I'm pretty sure of that. Is that too many events at the same time, or is it all going to stretch into multiple confrontations, multiple evolutions - of species, of class, of second species...? Are Samuel, Belphegor and Tera going to get involved? What's going to happen with Focalor? If he can't be awakened he's worse than Regnorex, but what if he can? Is Archangel going to play an active role, or remain an episode actor? Will Lily survive Tera's new plane's eventual collapse? Daniel is training, but what enemy will he use this new power against? What was his class advancement at 150? Centina, Willy and Edithe are all close to 150 too, but they need at least one serious battle to push them further. Where will that take place, and what will their evolutions/class advancements look like? There were multiple surprises so far; Archangel being the anointed judge of the Arcraem, the scythe of Arcraem, Jofis being immortal, Manos switching sides, Salvos getting that incredibly good stackable title, and point to Divine Essence GS not doing anything visible. What's the next surprise?
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 16:00:44 +0000 UTCI'm not sure how far I can go with my guesswork, because I can imagine a whole tree of possible options with the stuff we know/suspect, and it's up to Melas to prune away the options he doesn't want. For instance, I can imagine Nexeus being either saved or destroyed; all the characters we know saved on Salvos' separate plane, or huge number of people we know dying. I can also imagine everyone dying. Short term, I see Sally trying to talk to the Centinels, and being both very successful (because she has lvl2 language comprehension) and failing spectacularly (because they are there because they want to kill Salvos, and her presence reminds them of business at hand). I can see Clayton getting seriously pissed at her because she accelerated their doom. I can also see Matriarch Centinel finally making an appearance and revealing all kinds of stuff they don't know - Devil, corruption, endlands, end of the world, Devil being the king of Netherworld, and Salvos being his daughter, etc. Whether there will be a serious fight (barrier failure) before Salvos returns, I can't tell, becaue that would mean heavy human casualties, mostly children, so even if Salvos ultimately saves the day, it would count as a tragedy. I can't really imagine a peaceful resolution with the Centinels. Yes, they can be reasoned with, but the Matriarch is inherently violent and cares exclusively about her "children", in which she's very similar to Humans: they only care about their own, and have generic names for "others" - monsters, animals, demons etc. Let's see.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 12:08:27 +0000 UTCWell, that's what we don't know. Sure, it's a long shot, but I would say the local System core would have the last word in such events, and its criteria might be, let's say "interesting". First of all, she was a victim of a crime - sure, she wanted to kill Trico there, but Trico was obviously a known troublemaker and a nuisance, and judging on her reaction to Samuel, she might actually have been a nice person, inherent selfishness of the worldwalkers aside. It would actually fit Salvos' profile: extreme selfishness originally, but gradually developing in the direction of kindness, empathy and even service to others. A heroic story arc of a worldwalker who had to learn this lesson the hard way, and reset her evolution in order to see and take a different path and become a True God might be quite interesting, especially in juxtaposition to Trico who is the example of the opposite: a selfish person who never learns and everything he does is either indifferent or hurtful to others.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 10:07:09 +0000 UTCvia though specifically said she was just traveling through the nexus to vacation Peridose C89, I doubt she was in the nexus long enough to naturalize(which was the word used by amelia)
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 09:36:37 +0000 UTC"There is so much urgent stuff building up! I can't wait for it to come together!" - some of those things are quite scary, because stars would have to align just right for success, and the abyss of failure is steep and immediate.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 09:24:41 +0000 UTC"Amelia's latest volume revealed that in this multiverse" - well, that's the trick: it was also revealed that in some special cases such souls can be adopted by the local world, but circumstances under which this might be possible were intentionally left vague.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 09:20:59 +0000 UTCWas Via the worldwalker who died? If so, then her soul has simply been extinguished. Amelia's latest volume revealed that in this multiverse, the souls of being who are foreign to a world/universe disperse and become extinguished when they die outside of their world/universe of origin.
Sancturillore -- Élie Simard-Wallot
2024-10-23 09:14:04 +0000 UTCLet's just say it's not a parsimonic explanation of the available data. :) However, the part that I'm actually interested in is what happened to Via's soul? Was it destroyed, or was it adopted by the Nexeus? It's completely open, but there are some similarities between her and Salvos that make me hypothesise. For instance, the loving relationship between herself and Samuel would be an indication of forgiveness. She was very quick to pick up the subtleties. She has no conscious memories, of course, but there's something about Salvos always being compelling on a soul-level, and even Daniel mentioned this in the beginning, that her golden eyes looked magical, and he was pretty sure that was exactly the case. Also, her urge to evolve and be herself again is unmatched by anyone else. Unlike Soli's identity as Trico, which is something I would put 90% percent probability on, this is something that's too vague for me to even assign a number to, but it just feels right as a long story arc, especially if she becomes a True God.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 09:04:33 +0000 UTCno one has made the nexus off limits for world walkers, ana even said the residents of the nexus were free to leave. world walkers just aren't allowed to stay long enough to cause corruption which they did and still wouldn't even if they came right now. world walkers just stay away because there's a corruption appcalypse. as for the second point it's just a matter of wanting to learn, amelia doesn't want to learn about the system(if she asked z she probably could'v elearned in less than a year of being in that world), you could spend a million years on a planet and not learn about the gods that rule it if you don't care or aren't forced to learn. we know soli ruled the spirit realm but we don't know his age, for all we know he was a spirit alive 50,000 years ago when the apocalypse started then spent 30,000 years learning what he needed to become a true god, came back spent 10,000 years conquering the spirit realm and then made the deal with alexander 10,000 years ago.
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 08:48:20 +0000 UTC"also even if soli is trying to copy amelia's system's angels how does that in any way connect only to tricko" - it is absolute evidence that it's done by a worldwalker, and not just any worldwalker, but a very experienced one, who is actively trying to become a true God. This on its own doesn't indicate Trico with absolute certainty, because he shares the motivation and abilities with others, including the void pirates. However, as the ritual of Regnorex already made me suspect Trico's involvement, it would mean two worldwalkers on a world that was put out of bounds for them, which is exceedingly unlikely. However, Soli's manerisms and "sales pitch" to Iudex were a dead giveaway. "he could be a spirit that went out into the multiverse and is did steal the naming structure that still has zero connection to trico" - this would be a possibility only theoretically, because the amount of experience and arrogance would eliminate a new worldwalker from the analysis, "new worldwalker" being someone like Samuel or Salvos. The awe and fear they experienced in the Multiverse indicates they would absolutely not do anything that would put them on the bad side of anyone powerful. Also, even the powerful new worldwalkers such as Amelia who have some experience with the Angels know next to nothing about their actual relationship with the System, or their hierarchy. You would need to be a true insider for that, and I mean someone who's been around for possibly millions of years, spending let's say a thousand years on each of a thousand worlds, getting to know the intricacies of it all. And since Soli has been ruling the Spirit Plane for at least ten thousand years, it means it's a worldwalker with a real, long-term agenda connecting him with the Nexeus. He's not there just to pull a prank. Only two that we know of qualify: Trico and Ana.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 08:36:20 +0000 UTCalso even if soli is trying to copy amelia's system's angels how does that in any way connect only to tricko, even sal we saw took salvos to seem amelia, we know soli is competent in space magic allowing all his spirits to be summoned, he could be a spirit that went out into the multiverse and is stealing the naming structure that still has zero connection to trico
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 08:17:38 +0000 UTCso your only evidence is that two groups have similar ranks in a multiverse from a writer who recycles lots of religious texts and ideas for the creation of his fiction... wow what compelling evidence
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 08:08:01 +0000 UTC" they didn't look anything like soli's angel's" - yeah, that's because Soli's "angels" are fakes, they are not much different from Belphegor's golems and gargoyles. The fake "throne" actually said as much, that he's a creation of Soli. The only known actual angelic beings are the Archangel and Salvos.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 08:02:00 +0000 UTCsame multiverse doesn't mean the two systems are at all related. that's like saying salvos and daniel's dead girlfriend are the same person because both worlds are in the multiverse. you're acting like there can only be one system in the multiverse. amelia's system's angels were just strong being's in it's service they didn't look anything like soli's angel's.
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 07:35:06 +0000 UTC"what choir of angels of the system? do you mean from amelia? amelia's system is completely different from the nexus's system and in no way related." - no it's not, Melas confirmed it's all taking place in the same Multiverse.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 07:28:50 +0000 UTCwhat choir of angels of the system? do you mean from amelia? amelia's system is completely different from the nexus's system and in no way related. you've been suggesting every top tier lvl 200+ we've learned about since learning of trico as being trico, focalor trico, now soli trico, the only evidence you ever seem to be basing these on is that they're strong I highly doubt trico is even in the nexus at this point and is probably with the lady that set the world to be destroyed because if she ever gets suspicious of him he's dead, heck there's a chance she already killed him seeing through his lies
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 07:22:49 +0000 UTC"personally in my mind there's almost 0% chance of soli being tricko and no evidence that he is tricko there's even counter evidence like sal knowing soli" - Trico is the greatest expert on Samuel and how to deceive him, and that was before his soul was broken. However, if Samuel saw what Edithe saw, I think he'd have enough information to figure it out. Basically, the only people who could figure it out based on Edithe's memories are Salvos, Focalor, Belphegor, Samuel and Tera. They were there the last time (or, in case of Salvos, she has the memories. which amounts to the same thing).
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 07:16:24 +0000 UTC"or you know soli is just a supreme spirit trying to become a true god and take revenge on those who destroyed their world by burning their world too and the Arcraem who hates that plan wants him dead for that" - and who just happens to know about the choirs of angels of the System and copies it all locally, invoking the wrath of the real thing. No, I don't think so.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 07:12:44 +0000 UTC"Archangel being the obstacle to evils? Isn't it trying to destroy the spirit plane by spreading corruption?" - there's no real evidence of that. In all likelihood, he just wanted to create a big enough mess for Soli to show up, and it worked. However, the Spirit Plane has been taken over by a worldwalker with a God complex, who is in all likelihood working with Regnorex to break one of the major structures of the Nexeus and cause it to crumble. Basically, he outright controls the Spirit Plane, he infiltrated the Mortal Plane via Alexander and that fake church, he's trying to infiltrate himself instead of the System as a target for all kinds of religious invocations, probably hoping some of that will eventually make him a true God. He's the true devil of the story, not Samuel, and the Archangel was the only one with enough power and actual otherworldly authority to possibly stop him. Now, the only way he can be stopped is if Salvos becomes a True God in time, and/or she receives and accepts authority from the Arcraem, because Trico is just too powerful to be dealt with otherwise. He was a worldwaker when Samuel was a baby, and he presumably didn't sit idle for 50ky. This is a pest of cosmic proportions, and it's a singular, top-down threat that can't be reduced.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 07:09:46 +0000 UTCpersonally in my mind there's almost 0% chance of soli being tricko and no evidence that he is tricko there's even counter evidence like sal knowing soli
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 07:02:30 +0000 UTCor you know soli is just a supreme spirit trying to become a true god and take revenge on those who destroyed their world by burning their world too and the Arcraem who hates that plan wants him dead for that
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 07:01:10 +0000 UTCArchangel being the obstacle to evils? Isn't it trying to destroy the spirit plane by spreading corruption?
Danielv123
2024-10-23 06:54:46 +0000 UTC"Nothing points to him being tricko though" - actually, at this point the evidence is overwhelming. You see, the moment I saw that Soli surrounded himself with a hierarchy of Angels, there were only two options. The first was that Soli is some kind of a System-avatar, but that was super weird because things don't work that way in other universes and I was looking at it and thinking WTF??. The second option was that he's a worldwalker with some kind of a God complex, replicating a fake structure in mockery of what he saw elsewhere. When Archangel was revealed to be the authentic representative of the Arcraem, this was absolute evidence that it's some worldwalker messing with the Nexeus - why worldwalker, because nobody else would know what to fake. I already suspected that Trico is behind Regnorex's ritual, because someone had to replace Hartia as his resident expert in space magic, and that had to be someone extraordinarily good, and combined with the attempt of breaking the outer bounds of planes with some fake reason behind it, and certainty that this will create an avalanche of corruption, I was almost certain it was Trico who wanted to finish the job, because Ana was probably watching him like a hawk and he wanted to finally bury all the evidence. When I understood that Soli is a worldwalker, I first thought "another one?" and then a combination of the smile, the parade rest, the mocking attitude, and especially the story about fighting a war against the worldwalkers, it all clicked. And, also, he won the fight against the Judge anointed by the Arcraem, which is a fight I would expect most worldwalkers to lose. I would say the probability that it's Trico is over 90% based on the available evidence, and the other 10% is reserved for the possibility that Melas is intentionally messing with us. However, in order for him to be messing with us it would have to be more obvious, so that more people pick up the hints. No, this is hinted just subtly enough to be obvious in hindsight, which is how Melas usually does it. This is Trico.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-23 06:50:54 +0000 UTCI would argue the elves would abuse the fact that the crown doesn't do much in its own to capture it and permanently deny the humans the full set of treasures.
Dragonmaster_42
2024-10-23 05:42:15 +0000 UTCsadly she's not a merchant so probably not
Brandon14754
2024-10-23 02:02:07 +0000 UTCNothing points to him being tricko though
Sancturillore -- Élie Simard-Wallot
2024-10-23 01:59:08 +0000 UTCI think those are the archangels remains. I am fairly certain the archangel could normaly revive and Soli/Tricko knows this, so he used a technique thats destroys a target without chance for revival. Like compressing him into a ball of iron. There is no regenerating from that. If anyone has a surefire way to kill an immortal of nexues, its gotta be tricko, he should know plenty about level 200+ beings after hanging out with Sal and his old gang
Angworu
2024-10-23 01:53:51 +0000 UTCa PR stunt is more useful for the elven battlefield than it is the centinal one, the centinals wont care but you might be able to scare a few elves with it
43110T
2024-10-23 00:16:24 +0000 UTCThere is so much urgent stuff building up! I can't wait for it to come together!
Dragonmaster_42
2024-10-22 22:51:16 +0000 UTCSally was up to a lot. I bet that's a real meaty chunk of XP.
Dragonmaster_42
2024-10-22 22:47:43 +0000 UTCI would guess it's the crown. Greaves and boots are needed on other battlefields as well. But the crown is essentially a PR stunt.
Dragonmaster_42
2024-10-22 22:44:27 +0000 UTCRachel's plan is going to go off the rails so hard... Clayton will wish he never locked her up! Rachel and Sally will totally teleport right outside the barrier and Rachel will get the title [Rider of an Ancient Centinel]. And when Clayton comes to get her back, she will be en route to Matriarch Centinel who will be totally pissed at Sally. She might even capture Sally and use her as an interplanar voodoo doll to hurt Salvos. That might in turn evolve [Salvo of Vanity] and kick off Salvos converging all the plot threads by becoming aware of business in the Mortal Realm and Edithe's pickle! Imagine Manos and Salvos carving their way through demons when suddenly Salvos drops to the ground in a fountain of black blood. That gory mess knits itself together thanks to her corrupted regeneration. But she is unresponsive, forcing Manos to protect her (which he loudly complains about). After a few minutes, her face twists in irritation and she rips a hole in space. Through that hole, centinels stream out and the chaos begins. A 3way battle between centinels, demons and numerous Salvos. And Salvos dominates the battlefield until Folcanor, Matriarch Centinel or both show up. Salvos barely survives a single strike from either and books it. And a few hours later, she comes back with that scythe and some GS levelups and makes capaccio.
Dragonmaster_42
2024-10-22 22:41:23 +0000 UTC“ does that mean there’s a random amount of exp just waiting ethereally for salvos and sally to reconnect, maybe giving her one or two levels” - yes, that would be my expectation as well. Plus memories.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-22 20:44:43 +0000 UTC“ and a single Mythic Grade artifacts” - hmmm… greaves or boots?
Danijel Turina
2024-10-22 20:42:54 +0000 UTCI thought sally could level up independently of salvos, but if that’s not the case does that mean there’s a random amount of exp just waiting ethereally for salvos and sally to reconnect, maybe giving her one or two levels. I just remembered that Samuels pocket space allows him to view activities going on in other planes, maybe it is worth leveling up
Travis Brown
2024-10-22 20:30:23 +0000 UTC"before she took a step before" - lapsus, should be "a step back".
Danijel Turina
2024-10-22 20:02:04 +0000 UTCThe Archangel got bodied so hard damn. Truly a low diff battle. Also, Rachel interrupted Sally, this is so sad. Can't wait to see what happens.
Azrie
2024-10-22 19:26:56 +0000 UTCor maybe that wasn't the archangel's real body either, sorta sounds like the remnants of a robot
Brandon14754
2024-10-22 19:06:06 +0000 UTC"For a moment, she was confused as to why Clayton would do that. But then she remembered that Humans didn’t take kindly to new things. And befriending Centinels was certainly a new thing." Like this part especialy. I really like tht there is more Salvos - Rachel is small Salvos, Sally is past Salvos :)
Użytkownik Przeciętny
2024-10-22 18:42:54 +0000 UTCI mean, if the sphere is broken. Maybe it's just a shell and the Archangel already revived and left?
Sancturillore -- Élie Simard-Wallot
2024-10-22 18:41:01 +0000 UTC"She whispered as the realization sank in. “The Archangel is truly dead.” She was trapped, and Mavos Academy would be destroyed." - First, let's have a minute of silence for the Archangel, who was the greatest obstacle to all the evils that are currently befalling the Nexeus. And second... dear Edithe, you don't know the half of it. Yes, Mavos academy is about to be destroyed, but that's not even important, as Regnorex is about to start his ritual in probably less than a week, and that's going to make the Nexeus crumble into the void.
Danijel Turina
2024-10-22 18:25:55 +0000 UTCAh. This will be fun. Sally[Salvos] has a plan. Those always go.... well
Shade Light
2024-10-22 18:25:44 +0000 UTCnew salvos chapter = best part of my day
Hunter
2024-10-22 17:56:52 +0000 UTC
