Elaborating on previous patch

iiiiiiiiiiinteresting. Okay, that solved some of my doubts. And thank you.

Simone Spinozzi

Well, the rule is for just 1 of any specific model. 1 per function would be somewhat useless. For example, I have 4 filters but they are all different .. several "cv slope generators" but they are all different. Nobody else makes a thing like the Trogotronic M11 so to replicate that functionality I would have to get another M11, and that breaks the duplication rule. I think somebody makes desktop controller boards with touch pads that each have their own output .. but the trouble with using a standard keyboard this way is exactly as you said; it only has one cv output, and the voltage it sends is going to be one of the following, depending on how it is configured: 1. Highest key pressed 2. Lowest key pressed 3. Last key pressed So if you're using it to control an oscillator AND other events in a patch, you would first need to split it using a buffered mult. (Using a passive mult will cause slight voltage drop, not normally a problem but when dealing with pitch cv it will put the oscillator out of tune). And then the extra events - in addition to all the extra patching - would be dependent on the oscillator pitch. The only way to separate them would be to employ a voltage controlled switch to send the signal to somewhere other than the oscillator at specific keyboard voltages - but then the oscillator would snap back to its zero point. You can't control two things separately with a single cv. They will always be inter-related.

Interesting. 🤔 And by that i suppose you mean each note or group of notes would need its own module, thus breaking the "just 1 module per kind rule" either that or you're telling me you'd need tons of splitting wires because even though the comparator has enough inputs, the keyboard has just the one output. Or that you'd have a "something" that would split the output (possibly even the comparator itself) buuut you would still need a ton of wiring for all the possible key combinations. So. (still thinking wildly about stuff i never touched) Could you reserve just a portion of the keyboard to do that and let the rest play normal notes? (let's say 7 to 12 keys, one of the extreme octaves you don't need, and if you need the full range, use the M11 to "unreserve it" when needed) At this moment (once again:uninformed guessing) i'm thinking that would be impossible because you'd still hear the notes when trying to switch rhythms on and off or change them or switch sample groups or whatever you can do with a single button keypress. That is: either one would use the keyboard solely as a "switch board" or solely as a playing instrument. And using it as both would be even more complicated than using it as each function. So either one would under-use it as an ultra-complicated-to-set-up switch board (because obviously one can only map so much and each single mapping sounds rather complicated i count at least 3 wirings, then one from the "whatever splits the input by voltage/frequency" into the comparator, then from the comparator into whatever is needed, then the base wiring to account for the fact that "whatever is needed" can change). Yes, that's engineer speak for either "why would you do even want to do that?!" or "hold my beer"... which yeah... they are indeed the same things.

Simone Spinozzi

Multiple M11 would be nice but I made a rule for myself that I would have only 1 of any module; no duplication. The only exception is the offset/attenuation modules which were sold as a pair (they are on either side of the Octal Switches - grey module full of jacks to the right of 8Bit Cipher). Those switches actually could be used to mimic the behavior of the M11. Getting a keyboard to do what you suggest would be .. tricky. The only way I can think of doing that would be by using a comparator & setting the threshold at the voltage level of the note where you want the cutoff to occur. When the threshold is crossed, the comparator outputs a 5v gate. Each subsequent cutoff would require its own comparator and a clone of the keyboard CV signal.

I was about to suggest buying a second mixer... but your comments after that made me rethink. 🤔🤔🤔 I wonder if you could have something like multiple M11s or better yet keying a keyboard so that whenever you push specific buttons various parts of the rythms would be altered depending on the octave. But maybe i'm thinking too far ahead. 🤔🤔🤔

Simone Spinozzi