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Where are this week's podcast and show notes?

Hello you,

If you were expecting the latest podcast and accompanying show notes last night and nothing has shown up that’s probably because you’re still on the old Spowahtaaaaaah tier which no longer receives those updates. To see them from now on you’ll need to switch to the new Eagle Quest tier.

Sorry about this. With the crisp logistical skill for which Smith and Sniff isn’t known, we announced a Patreon price rise before we’d looked into how this could be done. And it turns out that the only way to adjust the monthly cost is to create a new tier at the new price and then ask people to switch. Entirely sensible on Patreon’s part since it stops thieving flutes from luring you in for a quid and than jacking the price to a million pounds a month but a pain in the bum tricks all the same.

Of course, you can stay at the old Spowahtaaaaaah tier and price if you like, you just won’t get the Sunday evening updates (and the forthcoming Eagle Quest collection video).

Hope to see you on the Eagle side of things.

Cheersmatethanksmatebye

Jonny & Richard

Comments

I only just bloody joined.

Jason Stokes

Sorry about this. Send us a pm and we’ll sort.

Smith and Sniff

Won't let me upgrade and now not getting what I paid for when I paid for a year upfront - flutish platform, I know it's not your fault guys but it looks like you've screwed a heap of us

Peter Silk

I know it’s petty, but I paid for 12 months of show notes and early access, and only got 3. Do I get my money back?

Jon Baxter

Would you both mind messaging us? If you can we'll sort it out. Patreon seems to have a very inflexible system once you introduce more than one tier.

Smith and Sniff

Me too, did anyone contact you to try and make this right?

Jon Baxter

I've got the same issue - have tried a couple of different podcast apps and like Mark they land on Monday and have ads. I think there is something up with the feed link

James Frost

I cannot upgrade the patreon membership. I keep getting a message saying the current amount is below the minimum allowed

Paul Fargher

Got it. This is not quite the point i was making. I might have misunderstood patreon, but if, back in the day 🤪😄, i paid for an annual sub to Autocar, then they couldn’t put the price up after i paid and not send me any mags until i paid the new rate. The new rate would apply to new subscribers, fair enough, but not to people who effectively already made a contract to get a year’s worth. Anyway, i wasn’t going to reply because as mentioned it is all relatively small potatoes, but since some other fans replied to this comment then i thought i would make the point. Above all, as mentioned, you guys are great; and i may have misunderstood how this works in the digital age. Cheers 😀😀😀

HowieG

Same here it's slapping a VAT charge on my attempt to upgrade my annual subscription

James Wilson

Same here. It seems a trivial amount but if I try to upgrade it slaps a VAT charge on. It's coming back as nearly £35 a year. Close to 3x the original annual subscription.

James Wilson

Really disappointing. Paid for annual membership back January. Thought oh well I will upgrade. Can't pay the difference and is now charging me VAT. Annual is nearly £35 with it added on. Can't even cancel and refund my existing subscription and switch separately. If I switch to monthly a lose what I paid for. What a mess.

James Wilson

Technics style bomber jacket with "BUMTRICKS" on the back.

Nathen Fredrick

This happened to me. I got the discount

Richard Major

Switched over last week and is working fine, but still getting adverts!? CMTMB!

Cornish Rider

I pay £5 but don’t seem to be able to see new tier ? What am I doing wrong

mark bacon

I think we need to get some help with the RSS side of things. It's way beyond our deeply limited abilities.

Smith and Sniff

Yes, first one on Friday this week.

Smith and Sniff

That's right. Ultimately the lower tier should be phased out, as per Patreon's official guidance for raising the monthly price which says you create a new tier and let the old one whither. It's not a brilliant system, but there are obvious reasons why they don't just let you jack the price of current tiers.

Smith and Sniff

If you've paid for a year you should be able to move to the new tier and your current payment will apply as credit against upgrading to the new tier for a year.

Smith and Sniff

At the moment it would appear this is the case.

Dandydandan

I'm assuming the Spowahtaaaaah tier doesn't get anything except the joy of supporting. We don't get the podcast without ads even a day or two later?

Alexander Clement

I paid for a year a couple of weeks ago but it seems now i don’t get a year. The price rise is trivial and more than fair but Rich and Jonny if you are reading this then i would argue there is an important principle here that you should honour the folks who paid for a year. You are excellent in all cases 😄😄🙌🏼🙌🏼

HowieG

I'm paying £2.50 a month, but I'm not in the Eagle Quest tier - do I need to pay 1p less to get it?

Steve Harris

It’ll go towards credit for the new tier.

Daniel Achterhuis

Now that we are paying a fortune (I'm sure Matt Farah would still laugh at how much you charge) for this, can we get the podcast via the Patreon RSS feed on Sunday night instead of Monday morning?

Philip

I also upgraded then got no show notes, but an email saying dont be so cheap...but I've already not been so cheap....confused *eagle screech*

Neil Butler

Went to upgrade and it says £2.49 per month…. but then adds VAT on and tells me it’ll be £2.79 per month. What’s going on there? Also that equates to 12% VAT which seems odd! Adds VAT onto the annual option too. Any ideas what’s going on as the old subscription wasn’t £1 + VAT!

Steven Thomson

On a separate (but related) admin point, you might want to check what is going on with the RSS feeds for subscribers. The subscriber podcast always turned at the same time (Monday morning) as the public podcast (including adverts), rather than Sunday evening, and that is still the case with the Eagle Quest RSS link.

Mark Gould

Ahh top tip, just edited my membership to the higher tier and I got a credit for the 11 months I paid in advance. Happy days - that's maybe two wiper blades I can pay for now. "E.A.G.L.E.S - Eagles" (as the Philadelphia American Football fans chant).

Terry Yakisauce

Just checking - The OTOSOT podcast isn't out yet right? Assuming Friday will be the first just checking I didn't miss one.

Joshua Thiel

Signed up a couple of weeks ago and paid a year in one hit, oh well I guess the princely sum of £12 at least equates to a wiper blade for the Eagle Quest.

Terry Yakisauce

A-ha! thought I'd already traded in the Spowahtaaaaaah for the Eagle Quest but turns out I'd forgotten. Remembered and remedied while flicking through the phone this morning in the Peugeot dealership waiting on the paperwork of my new 208GT which I kinda impulse bought.

Dave Law

I too figured this out on my own (my genius is terrifying sometimes), but thanks for acknowledging this!

Rikard Ottosson

Problem solved; I paid for a year of this shite

Philip

Wasn’t this discussed in last week’s podcast? That’s why when I didn’t see the early release and notes I activated my ‘Ghia level of smugness’, and did the upgrade 😃👍

Dave Harding

I tried to upgrade to the Eagle Quest tier and Patreon gave me an error that the amount was below the minimum threshold for payment.

Philip

I just switched from an annual subscription on the old plan to an annual subscription on the new plan. It applied some credit to cover the remaining months of the old subscription.

Stuart Haslam

The quest has begun.

Ben

switched to new tier, natch. Still less than a pint a month.

jon honeyball

Ah, had assumed the delay was due to administrative flute-ary, I'd have bet a quid on it in fact. So, instead, I've used that to upgrade.

Jem Barnard

It won’t let me switch over as I’ve already got a annual subscription, maybe it’s user error

Miles Jones

“Smooth operator” as a certain allowed guest might say

Adam

Yeah. Confused me too

Tim Organo

Might be because i only switched last week it considers me part of that tier too until next month or something. Patreon works in mysterious ways.

Tom Gillespy

Although ironically I hardly ever listen on the Sunday and usually wait for the Monday to listen at work

Adam

Just upgraded! I also thought that the subscription would be adjusted automatically, but the restrictions seem sensible. Keep at it, guys!

nmdelgado_81

I now live on the other side of things

Adam

Duly upgraded. I can now be …happy for the rest of the day. Safe in the knowledge there will always be a bit of my (wallet) devoted to it.

Cameron Fairweather

Oh, this was meant to be sent only to the old tier. DAMMIT.

Smith and Sniff

Done the switcherroo. Cheers chaps

Andrew Roberts

I'm on it, I thought that it was going to be done automatically

Maximiliano Pechmann

That explains it

Michael Donnelly

I’m switching now!!

Rich long

Switched across😎😎

Luke Hope

I guess you can't send this just to the old tier as I upgraded and then was throughly confused because I got this and also listened to the latest cast last night!

Tom Gillespy


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