So I tried experience keys (rant)

I didn't know how they released it, after the closed quiet beta they were doing, I hadn't heard any more news of it, and only they used it themselves in those halloween haunted ride trip, and the corn maze, and other minigames. I didn't know they decided on making it paid premium only instead of just signing up with some form and review process (which is still in place for the global keys, yeah you have to mail them, I think there was a special email though for it same as back when it was quiet beta). You've been working on the XOBJ intercommunication stuff, couldn't you have a small closed source script hook all the required functionality and then people would be able to send inter-script communication for events to trigger? The experiences require the permission to compile but then couldn't that compiled script be dragged in and out without modify permissions and still work? Since if you don't modify a script or notecard, even if it has a different uuid in inventory it's more like a symlink/shortcut uuid to the real already compiled AND uncompiled versions on the server. So if you edit, then it makes a new script and tries to compile, but if you don't tamper, you drag a copy from inventory it should stay the same compiled asset on the server side (the whole point of going mono was for this purpose of using a single copy in memory with only separate variable heap and cache a single file). As far as the out of focus/minimized issue, RLV isn't the only thing affected by it, I find all kinds of weird packet loss when minimized, which is silly because minimized and out of focus should both use the same throttling you would think. I've found though that dual screen, up, but out of focus while I'm on other screen with browser or something, it will frame-limit-sleep so fast flipbook effect, which is fine, and still slowly loads mesh and textures if they're forward in camera aim. When minimized though, group notices ding-ding but then never get received sometimes, the existing people and objects stay loaded but the new people and loaded things will build up in a pending queue but never download in background, when that fills up it just stops attempting to load anything. If you leave it like that, you stay logged in for hours, but as soon as you try to unminimize it starts to try to catch up and you either do manage to and end up with invisible avatars or every idle animation/deformer all broken and squished, or it just logs you out after a minute (while you were still definitely connected because you can send and get recent messages and chat and still lets you walk around until it just decides to ding and force you to close the program). So there is certainly something (likely everything, the sleep is probably in main loop) that just gets skipped in the main loop along with the rendering pipeline.

Well the video for it back when it was beta and you had to send support tickets just to get even the personal experiences keys and only for large already made games had it hyped up so nicely, looked like full permissions over avatar after the initial request with all the needed permissions mixed together and then the big thing interested me was the key-store database. They saw too many exploits even then I guess, so they went with the split idea, and then reduced it more and more. I mean this is what they had before they even announced it it was secret compiled flags in the experiences for the linden mini games like the realms and field games.

I spoke to Kitty today. The most likely reason is the fact that firestorm DOES limit to owner. And if the script loads before the client loads it, it will start requesting permissions manually. This might also be an issue if objects don't load in the viewer until they enter your FOV (though it has to be tested). Let me know if you do any experiments with it. I will at some point.

The attachment popups seem to happen most when the viewer is minimized. Not sure if that is a bug or intentional.

Kadah

What a fantastic writeup. I had no idea that the experience system was so utterly useless. I'd been considering giving it a shot with my own work, but now I know that I'm better off just sticking with a free, imperfect RLV. Thanks so very much for sharing!