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Bench Klay for Moody. He's a younger, higher energy 3 and D guy.
John Pettus
2023-11-13 20:46:04 +0000 UTCRocky has a better chance to win IF he can control and make the fight be in the style he likes. That's the key.
John Pettus
2023-11-13 20:44:39 +0000 UTCIt’s the shot selection and the multiple dribble isolations. He’s not that type of player. Move the ball get it back and shoot. Kuminga will score, he’s not a knock down shooter but he likes to score.
Kahlil Baker
2023-11-13 20:08:40 +0000 UTCI love Loon.. but i cant help but think how much better our offense would be if Loon was at least a 34-35% shooter from 3. I think that Dray/Loon frontcourt starts us off too clunky against these bigger teams. For teams like the Cavs.. Timbs... Lakers.. We might need to start Saric and Dray just for the spacing. And then put in Loon after we get our feet wet.
Ballin Forever
2023-11-13 19:02:03 +0000 UTCThis is my thing tho... who else is supposed to shoot the ball? You want Loon to shoot it? Wiggs been shooting literal airballs. I get Klay been struggling but there is literally noone else to shoot it. CP3 and Dray passes up shots... Loon dont shoot... Kuminga isnt a shooter. The only guys other than Steph who lets it fly is Mood Saric and Klay.
Ballin Forever
2023-11-13 18:59:12 +0000 UTCI've been on the trade Klay while he still has value for a while now. He's just gone down that rabbit hole of thinking about himself too much, he will win many games for us until he's gone but he will lose many more, that's just the nature of a guy who shoots as much as he does. And he certainly isn't worth the North of 40 million a year that he's getting thats for damn sure. That's Superstar money, he's not that.
Russ
2023-11-13 18:46:53 +0000 UTCThe rose jersey looks slightly better on court. These hills jerseys are tailor made for the techies and non bay natives to wear outside
David Liao
2023-11-13 17:13:08 +0000 UTCWe absolutely need to be seeing all four of those guys a lot more, and after the Minnesota game, definitely more than Klay. Kerr is clearly giving the starters and vets plenty of deference right now, and hopefully the writing is on the wall that this isn't going to work.
Neal X
2023-11-13 14:16:31 +0000 UTCYep. Coming here in frustration after the Minnesota game. The leopard can't change his spots. He's out to lunch at both ends, stubborn, and playing selfish. I never thought I'd actually get here, but I think my "trade Klay" needle just went from "never" to "probably". This is now on Kerr and the front office to fix, and they'd better figure it out.
Neal X
2023-11-13 14:14:38 +0000 UTCKlay is starting to be an irritating player to watch. He’s shooting horribly, he’s having these 14-15 dribble isolation plays. His defense is horrible and he’s putting up way too many shots to not score more that 20 points. Steph needs help
Kahlil Baker
2023-11-13 04:43:26 +0000 UTCThey need to move either kuminga or moody to starting line up for some offense and move klay to the bench. Just try something bc they play mid to good teams and just can't close the gap. Hopefully the younger guys can generate more movement to help spark the offense.
Sully
2023-11-13 03:23:31 +0000 UTCI'ma go head and say what nobody else want to, but we need either Klay or Wiggins got injured right about nah. Nothing crazy, just a little month off with a hamstring or sumn to go get your mind right
yan't get right
2023-11-13 02:29:44 +0000 UTCTransition D requires running and apparently all the vets are gassed already...
Neal X
2023-11-13 02:04:21 +0000 UTCMan the league isn't hiding how much they hate the fast start we got off to this season and is going to start punishing us. 45 fts against every game incoming
KuraiT
2023-11-13 01:16:02 +0000 UTCThe only way it felt like we could have come back that game was Moody over Klay. I know Kerr would never do that but Moody and Kuminga has earned the right to eat up some of those minutes. If Wiggins cant shoot that 3 ball, he is not better than Kuminga. Hopefully we see Moody and Kuminga more if Klay and Wiggins continue to struggle
Viet Huy Vu
2023-11-13 00:54:28 +0000 UTCThe evidence has been clear for an entire year now bro.. our vets have been struggling against these young teams. In damn near all of these games.. we start off flat.. and then the bench comes in and gives us life.. which causes the vets to play with more energy heading into the second half. Its a trend thats been apparent. Im not say throw in the towel.. but TJD came into the game too late yesterday.. Gota get them boys in there earlier to handle the young players on the other team who have much more energy and juice
Ballin Forever
2023-11-13 00:50:30 +0000 UTC@amar In theory I prob would for PG13. I would hate to do it.. but ik it would make us better in the short term
Ballin Forever
2023-11-13 00:46:24 +0000 UTCOh there's no doubt there would be scrutiny. But i don't think the media should have any sort of influence on the team decisions being made. If Lacob caved to the fans, we'd probably be championshipless team led by a monta ellis
OhSomeABeanLoadin
2023-11-13 00:21:51 +0000 UTCSaw it a bit in that 3rd, mixing young and old. Too many of just vet lineups getting run out the gym.
John Z
2023-11-13 00:21:07 +0000 UTCI agree with that. Obviously they've earned a longer grace period than 10 games, but it's good to start thinking about this now before the end of that rope is reached. I just hope the team is evaluating those options and actually has the balls to be proactive about it if needed.
OhSomeABeanLoadin
2023-11-13 00:12:25 +0000 UTCWe all know Dray’s dance on the line, including Dray. Who didn’t see them going after the 2nd T/ejection by any means necessary. Add the obviously active whistle, and Dray played his hand pretty stupidly.
Chip Tingle
2023-11-13 00:03:10 +0000 UTCfirst game i turned off at halftime all season. it looked like they were dogging it out there at times. yes its early and yes our record is decent but i believe the writing is on the wall. we need to shake up these rotations fast or we'll be left behind fast.
Johnny Marko
2023-11-12 23:39:23 +0000 UTCI think JK needs to play more. Wiggs aint giving us enough and at least with JK he is aggressive and getting to the line.
Jeremy Stone
2023-11-12 23:32:23 +0000 UTCOkay well if you want PG13 he makes 45, so with the base being 24 in Wiggs you'd need to through in nearly every role player just to match salaries. If you want either of those players the base salary has to be CP or Klay just to make the money work, before considering the value
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 23:22:35 +0000 UTCYeaa Amar, I really do hope you're correct and Wiggins turns it around. But the sample size on both Klay and Wiggins impact isn't 9 games. They're directly responsible for being annihilated in the playoffs. I mean, when was the last time Andrew was playing at an All-Star level? Back in February maybe?
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 23:15:22 +0000 UTCI guess what I'd ask you is: would fewer minutes for Klay mean he played with better focus and energy during those minutes? Or would he play even worse because he couldn't get into a rhythm?
Neal X
2023-11-12 23:14:20 +0000 UTCDraymond hate's getting really old with me. People are doing it just because it's popular, like junior high shit.
Neal X
2023-11-12 23:12:37 +0000 UTCYeah I'm just throwing out names and potential targets
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 23:04:43 +0000 UTCAlc those rose jerseys were so ugly. I understand not liking the lettering on these unis but everything is better than last season.
Tyler Nevans
2023-11-12 22:54:04 +0000 UTC24 + 6 is 30 Amar Neither of those trades work with Andrew as the base salary.
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 22:38:12 +0000 UTCI disagree with all of this. But we'll see. Young players usually don't win a lot of games in the nba. Sure a couple here and there can work if surrounded by vets (2022 Poole)... But throwing in the towel on vets with tons of data ... Maybe after 20 games
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 22:34:31 +0000 UTCHow about for pg13?
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 22:32:43 +0000 UTCExactly ALC, it's insane how many people want to make radical changes when we have years of data supporting the current path. Plus it's not like they struggling as a team. And move you make will likely hurt the bench as well. Cooler heads are needed
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 22:31:57 +0000 UTCExactly man, the primary reason they haven't made the change is fear. And I don't fault Kerr for not making the change yet, it's early. But if Wiggs can't get up against Minnesota, call the coroner.
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 22:31:46 +0000 UTCThere is no fear, it would be a panic move when they are only 9 games in. .... With a winning record
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 22:29:33 +0000 UTCI kind of get the hesitation from Kerr. But we gota start really leaning on Mood.. Kuminga.. TJD.. and Bpod. I know there is a level of discomfort with going away from vets. But we need them. That play where Kuminga chased Spida up the court and got that stop... TJD drawing fouls being aggressive with his roles... we need all of that extra energy an burst.. especially in the reg season. The changing of the guard is coming faster than expected... which is a good thing.
Ballin Forever
2023-11-12 22:21:25 +0000 UTCNaw.. I cant let Kuminga go for Siakam.
Ballin Forever
2023-11-12 22:12:17 +0000 UTCYup.. that’s what Kerr was hinting at post game too. They gonna just open up Pandora’s box
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 22:08:11 +0000 UTCPodz pushing pace would certainly help Jk more than Cp wanting to call a play every time
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 21:54:39 +0000 UTCI’m not mad the suggestion, but could you imagine the media coverage Monday morning if that was the lineup tonight. I think that’s a big part of it, the added scrutiny
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 21:53:14 +0000 UTCHe flare the leg, but that is Steph’s “natural motion” a lot so idk
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 21:51:55 +0000 UTC😂 according to them he is great shape, full summer of run
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 21:51:15 +0000 UTC10 more games or a quarter into the season.. then yeah I agree they have to look at adjusting roles. But you said it! The context and history of who they are makes it tough optically for Kerr
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 21:49:18 +0000 UTCOld and slow 10 games in 😬 I guess you could argue older team pacing themselves but still…
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 21:47:07 +0000 UTCTo me, they just incentivized people retaliating against Draymond. Makes no damn sense. Nuts.
e40
2023-11-12 21:45:20 +0000 UTCWe have all seen it backfire plenty. But there are many nights where Steph and Klay are impartial. They feed and the team feeds off Draymond acting like this is a game 7 in November. Maybe emotion is not the right word. But his competitive leadership
Athletic Alchemy
2023-11-12 21:45:10 +0000 UTCWhat a difficult game to watch. Just an abysmal effort. Negative transition defense
Andre Brooks
2023-11-12 21:28:06 +0000 UTCnever has been for steph
Abhi Kelkar
2023-11-12 21:25:48 +0000 UTCAlch, can you expand on what you mean by "emotional leadership". Draymond's recent social media rant about people trying to tell him "how to be draymond" really irritated me. Being immature is not leadership. Being "the angry guy" isn't helpful to your team. When draymond brings high energy, I wonder if it just appears that way because everyone else on his team isn't bringing it Is he raising the effort level, or sucking the energy out of his coworkers?
Thomas Ogas
2023-11-12 21:25:02 +0000 UTCPedigree
Gary
2023-11-12 21:17:54 +0000 UTCYea I think everyone is aware of who Wiggs was. I have multiple articles singing his praises. He wasn't guarded in thr playoffs as a shooter, and I'd love to see his numbers since his return back late last season. If he was defending well, then we could wait out the drought. But you're so concerned with having multiple non-shooters, but currently you have two piss pour defenders starting and closing who are also not shooting well and have illogical shot selections. Even if Wiggs continued to shoot below league average but still attacked the basket as an above the rim finisher then he'd earn his spot. He looks straight up allergic to the poster jams of the title season. He's a shell of himself and should try and rebuild on the bench next to Cp setting him up. I hope that he comes back to form. I hope I'm wrong. And closing is up to what Kerr feels is working that night. But not starting the youth at this point is purely in fear of an emotional regression from a chemistry standpoint.
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 21:14:21 +0000 UTCWiggins, Kuminga, and a pick for Siakam... Do you do it?
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 21:07:10 +0000 UTCSecond option??!! I'll be happy if he's a good role player on a contender lol
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 21:06:00 +0000 UTCKuminga is playing with good energy but his efficiency is worse than last year. That's not good.
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 21:04:14 +0000 UTCWiggins shot 39% from 3 last year and 38% the year before. If he gets back to normal he'll be guarded as such
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 21:03:14 +0000 UTCI'm more worried about Wiggins tbh. Klay avg 20 last year
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 21:01:53 +0000 UTCThat fourth quarter was some ugly shit, almost as ugly as NBA TV's aspect ratio.
Yavor Danev
2023-11-12 20:56:12 +0000 UTCWe asking Klay to do too much offensively. His legs are clearly not the same. We gota put a trade package together to bring in a legit 2nd option. A guy that can go get 20-25. IDK who.. but we need to be aggressively hunting for a trade. Because this team is just one piece away in my opinion.
Ballin Forever
2023-11-12 20:43:36 +0000 UTCKlay is still needed for his spacing. Bench Klay for who?? Defenses still respect Klay and guard him above the break. The issue is Klay is asked to do too much because we dont have any shot creators outside of Steph. Thats not Klay's fault.
Ballin Forever
2023-11-12 20:41:27 +0000 UTCYou hit the nail on the head. We most def need another shot creator. Have we won a game yet where Steph didnt get 30? With that 2022 Warriors team.. we were winning games even when Steph was slumping and thats because we had Wiggins and Poole both getting 18-20 pts from shot creation and bucket getting. Games like this is where I sort of missed Poole.
Ballin Forever
2023-11-12 20:37:39 +0000 UTCAgree! Kuminga is playing good with energy, problem is Klay & wiggins are not playing as a 2nd option, I would say everyone is playing good except Klay & wiggins.
Karan Minhas
2023-11-12 20:33:43 +0000 UTCOnly silver lining...Dray's gonna be juiced on the backline for the backend of this back-to-back
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 20:29:43 +0000 UTCPretty much every 3-point shot Wiggins takes is uncontested and he's shooting 16.7% on 2.4 attempts from distance and 53% from the line. Moody is shooting 38% from 3 on 3.4 attempts on 10 fewer minutes per. He's also outshooting him from the field, 47% to 41% He's not only hitting his open jumpers but taking more of them and finishing better at the rim. If spacing is your priority can you explain why Moody can't start over Wiggs?
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 20:22:11 +0000 UTCNeed more TJD and less Loon in these matchups, Dario at least stretches the floor but for these tough matchups for Loon just give him some time off tbh. It’s not his fault but he’s not really doing anything out there. Hope especially off a back to back they go to TJD more given how Naz Reid is always a nightmare matchup for us. Now we got the Cavs of the west rolling up in the timberwolves with their two 7 footers and young power guard. And McDaniels gonna be in Steph’s jock the entire time. Time for Wiggs to snap out of it, perfect time we need it and it’s Minnesota who he always gets up for. Moody’s D has surpassed Klay’s so if his shots aren’t falling those minutes gotta go to Mood.
Luke Zhang
2023-11-12 20:17:00 +0000 UTCAt this point i doubt that’s happening for klay smh
Offtopic K
2023-11-12 20:13:55 +0000 UTCNah kuminga is playing well for me.. he’s just not ready to be a second option on a contender
Offtopic K
2023-11-12 20:12:52 +0000 UTCBeen saying that since last year for klay…
Offtopic K
2023-11-12 20:12:02 +0000 UTCThe percentages don't mean much, if someone isn't guarded like a shooter then they aren't for spacing purposes. Team don't respect JK like that just like they'll let Dray and Loon shoot all day.
Alasdair Macdonald
2023-11-12 20:01:10 +0000 UTCGood break down again. In previous seasons, Klay Thompson has started cold, but not looked so slow and helpless on team defense. It’s a real gamble to have to wait this long for his offense to show up. Even while having a winning record so far-it’s really obvious this team looks old slow and small compared to some of these other young and hungry teams. It’s a real problem.. someone needs to step up beside Stephen Curry at some point
Paul Hanson
2023-11-12 20:00:51 +0000 UTCthank you so much haha
Tony Stark
2023-11-12 19:54:15 +0000 UTCKlay and Wiggins need to go, sorry. Or at the very least they need to come off the bench. They're shells of themselves defensively, and neither of them have shown that they can be the second option right now. Klay has this weird thing where, in his head, he's still 2016 Klay, so he thinks it's all just some mental hurdle. He's in denial that time has passed and he's needed to adapt. I'm not even going to speculate on what the hell is going on with Wiggins, but I'm sick of watching him get blown by on every other possession. I hate that the nostalgia and ego of this team would never demote those guys, but c'mon dubs. Klay is not deserving of being a starter anymore, and so far neither is Wiggins
OhSomeABeanLoadin
2023-11-12 19:51:02 +0000 UTCLmao basically if person/team A is better than B on paper, but B likes to play in a way A doesn’t like, then B has a better chance of winning. Ex: Apollo Creed likes to fight on the outside using his jab and techniques and is way better than Rocky but Rocky likes to fight up close with body shots which is why Rocky has a better chance to win
Jacob Ricafrente
2023-11-12 19:51:01 +0000 UTCYou wanna double check the 3 point percentages before assuming based on previous performance?
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 19:48:00 +0000 UTCThey need klay and Wiggins to get back to their averages. 17-20 ppg. Will fix a lot
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 19:47:01 +0000 UTCThis team's wing play is very concerning. They have a lot invested into Wiggins, Klay, and Kuminga but they are all playing awful. Klay and Wiggins are 17-19 ppg players giving them nothing. They won't go anywhere with this production.
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 19:43:25 +0000 UTCtbh i never really understood what styles makes fight meant lmao
Tony Stark
2023-11-12 19:43:04 +0000 UTCThat's three non shooters. Not gonna work, the starters need more space and offense not less
A m a r Singg
2023-11-12 19:41:57 +0000 UTC/r/nba acted like draymond committed murder with that tiny little shoulder check. I got downvoted to hell for saying he sold it and that contact happens every single game lmao
OhSomeABeanLoadin
2023-11-12 19:41:16 +0000 UTCSo can Klay get in better condition, or is this the best he's going to be? If that's the case, I'm tried of tiptoeing around his ego -- cut his minutes, and cut his pay -- if we don't cut him entirely. I don't have time for him anymore if he's just resting on his laurels out here.
Neal X
2023-11-12 19:36:01 +0000 UTCHow is that foul on Steph on his 3 not a flagrant?
BruceWayne
2023-11-12 19:33:13 +0000 UTCCP, GP, Wiggs, Klay, Šarić that's gotta be the new 2nd unit 30, Moses, JK, Dray, Kevon there are only emotional reasons why this isn't the starting 5. Even if the young kids don't close, the energy, the foul drawing, the minutes load - and the two rooks gotta have 8+ minutes just penciled in.
Stevie Ray
2023-11-12 19:30:44 +0000 UTCIm sure not to give him a max.. his last contract was his thank you from the organization for me.. if he’s not willing to get paid for his current production then he can go honestly
Offtopic K
2023-11-12 19:21:02 +0000 UTCNeed Klay and Wiggs to get 20+ each
Chrisjordanfit
2023-11-12 19:20:16 +0000 UTCI don’t know.. starting to worry that we just simply have issues with our offense and efficiency.. another bad shooting night.. only steph, moody, and draymond have been consistent
Offtopic K
2023-11-12 19:19:10 +0000 UTCThe second unit has been amazing but I wish they would lean into the youth with it.Play great defense . get into transition with jk and moody.Especially since they are gonna struggle with half court offense.Jk is shooting unrecognizably bad but it will turn a corner.
mr.bean
2023-11-12 19:11:35 +0000 UTCSeems like klay never has his legs these days. Not sure about giving him max money
Dami I
2023-11-12 19:09:49 +0000 UTC
