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Warriors vs Magic | GM-33 |

Warriors vs Magic | GM-33 |

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after last night i need some alch-ahol

B Master

Hey Alch, I am watching a Swish Culture live cast. I’m finding it interesting. I was wondering what your thoughts regarding this take? https://www.youtube.com/live/SldY2oTHGN4?si=pHXeRxm4JZ0jpTzd

Kitwana Tyhimba

Ya'll aint ready for my 1st comment rant lol. Im locked and loaded.

Jansen E

This is indefensible. Worth firing a coach over. How can you bench Kuminga for 18 minutes after he was literally the one that almost won you the game with penetration and putting Jamal in foul trouble. Kuminga is getting too good for him. All he wants him to do is get Klay and Steph good passes. Dude, they aren't that good anymore.

ItsWhATItIs

Alc you have to go in tmrw man. Pls the fanbase is distraught after this one. Give Kerr the beating he deserves

Floyd Royce Farnham

Yeah Alch the way that can work is trading Klay, Paul and Wiggs at least. That way you get a younger star or 2 to compete with the last of Steph years and take over from him along with the young ones we have. Right now, are these 3 guys really valuable? Not really but I feel 3 reliable guys who are on the cusp of being stars can be acquired from em. Along with Steph and Dray, we might still have a chance before Steph retires

ItsWhATItIs

I’m not saying don’t go all in rn.. I’m saying post Steph that should be the realistic expectation

Athletic Alchemy

33% is definitely not indicative of Moody's shooting. He's constantly out of rhythm due to inconsistent minutes, and has shown in his first couple of seasons + last year's postseason that he's more of a 36% shooter. I agree about the reps, but I also think he's already solid enough as a shooter and therefore think rhythm is more important (but they inherently go together)

Seb P

ok makes sense. thanks

Mikey H

what !!!

Naji Zouhari

If that's your goal, then trade Steph at the deadline. It'll give you the best odds to be a playoff team for a long time once the young pieces develop. If you wanna win a title, it requires a lack of fear of what the future might bring once all assets are gambled just like all the other current contenders. Can't have the milk and the cream, we saw that last year, ran into Lakers team that fully committed to the season - we had several routes to upgrade the roster and simply chose not to.

Stevie Ray

first off welcome! and thank you... I think on paper that deal makes sense. In reality I think it would take a true superstar for them to trade Klay. Or a guy on his way to being one, Zion maybe Bridges or Mitchell.. Siakiam is just a tier below that imo

Athletic Alchemy

got to match salaries but that is an interesting idea CP to the Lakers

Athletic Alchemy

Lakers lost 10 of 11 * big eyes emoji*

Athletic Alchemy

I have a feeling every shaky playoff team in the L is calling on MB.. such a easy fit on to any roster

Athletic Alchemy

fax.. he was covering way more ground with his moves, almost like CJ

Athletic Alchemy

GP down he needs his shot

Athletic Alchemy

nah he been knock down for about 2 weeks

Athletic Alchemy

Franz seemed to be running away form Kuminga as far as draft status, but the shooting hasn't developed liked they hoped, it looks better than JKs J, but I have a feeling Kuminga may end up the more effective jump shooter, he believes in it more

Athletic Alchemy

yup the Live feet was stunning to see

Athletic Alchemy

he does man.. and I know its a lot to put on him, but he might save this whole situation

Athletic Alchemy

I seen that.. he even waited for sec for someone to come over. I mean listen! If we get the vibe he aint really in it, how you think they see him

Athletic Alchemy

yup soccer influence

Athletic Alchemy

I love the idea in theory.. if only he had have the BB IQ as Dre

Athletic Alchemy

unfortunately its who he is.. not just in playing style but this is common in super twitchy athletes

Athletic Alchemy

I do what I can! lol nah it does feel that way sometimes tho

Athletic Alchemy

Strength and a rare opportunity to let Klay guard the opponents best player

Athletic Alchemy

he is serviceable for sure.. but hell he is starting for them

Athletic Alchemy

Wagner its an open comp for sure.. Palo tho IDK you see him in sac last night

Athletic Alchemy

I think mood for another big body is the most realistic move, but they wont even give him a solid 7-8 min in a row to show what he can do

Athletic Alchemy

IDK when he went to Dario-Loon!! lol but GP2 that hammy is going to take months probably

Athletic Alchemy

I think we need Steph to distribute more 25 and 6 or 7 would be ideal

Athletic Alchemy

I think Orlando blew up a lot of our initial action

Athletic Alchemy

interesting.. let me pay more attention. perhaps its usually coming form a down hill attack or threat of one

Athletic Alchemy

The goal is to be a perennial playoff team .. at least for me. But I understand everyone's expectations are different

Athletic Alchemy

What do you mean?

Cullen Vaughn

buddy please consider paragraphs

COLD GETTING DUMB

Definitely overdue. Maybe Klay had to hit rock bottom before he would listen. Kerr's coaching has been pretty poor this season (and last season), but I'll give credit for this one. If he's going to start holding vets accountable for their play, that's a huge improvement.

Mike Peterson

Also the reason why I trade Klay is because I think the raptors would love to have podz and more shooting on the roster with Klay and then Kuminga is trade-able if they can’t fit him into the offense. Also the warriors do this because I don’t think Klay is capable of being your number 2 anymore. His defense isn’t good enough or reliable enough and on the offense I don’t think he has the ability to consistently get open enough to take good on balance shots. I think moody can slot into that role nicely because he’s got good size and length, can shoot and is professional enough to take on that role and grow in it

Cullen Vaughn

Hey Alch, I’m a fairly new Patreon and just got to say I love your analysis the realty you provide. I think this team isn’t a championship team and I think the two problems are the defense and the lack there is if roles on the offense (it’s too complicated or non existent after Steph) I saw a trade the other day that I loved that I tweaked. What about trading Klay, Kuminga, and podz ( maybe adding 2 second round draft picks only if needed) to get back Siakam, Otto porter jr and Thaddeus Young? Move Draymond to the center, have Looney and TJD take up the backup role depending on matchup. Have Siakam starting with Saric backing him up. Wiggs back starting with Otto Porter backing him up and then Steph and Moody at the start for the guards. The only weakness I see is CP3 and Steph minutes together which makes them too small In my opinion, but I think they can get away with that. That defense should be amazing and Siakam becomes your number 2 on the offense where he provides a different element than steph and an element that is not mod-range and athletic with the ability to pass out of the post up on a mismatch.

Cullen Vaughn

Isn’t that talk should have taken place like 10 game ago? Kerr is so slow to act, well better late than nothing

Natto Santo

trade cp3 moody and cojo for austin reaves

Adel Berrached

the common thing about last season and this season is the fact that draymon haven't been available as a LEADER, he's not just a good defender, who did we see bark at wiggis or klay or steph when they play jordan poole defense NOBODY, this season we for the first time felt like we needed cp3 for his veteran presence when we already have 3 hofs, we need dray the leader more than the defeender

Adel Berrached

If another team makes a fair offer for draymond I think the warriors would trade him and be right to. It’s possible some other teams are more comfortable taking the risk on an elite role player but for the warriors his centrality makes him too big a risk to rely on.

B Master

When I saw Saric, Looney, Podz, CP and Wiggs on the floor I almost had a heart attack. It's such a bad line-up for offense and defense but the Magic couldn't take advantage. Also I know that it won't happen but trading Klay and others for someone like Mikal Bridges would be dope, a line-up with Steph, Bridges, Wiggs, Kuminga and Dray has a lot of potential and we'd lock teams down

Ousmane Diakhaby

Iggy 2.0 we already have, his name is Moses Moody, but he's not getting any minutes.

Neal X

There was also one play where TJD tried to dunk with two hands and got denied. So he's still got some work to do, heh.

Neal X

Steph’s dribble package was elite this game

richard phan

GP2 plays without any brakes. He pushes his body too hard when he's on the court, he'll have to learn how to ease off to protect his legs.

Neal X

Moody would have improved his shooting if he actually got reps. Remember how hot he was getting in the OKC game? He had potential and I say "had" because it seems clear he'll never live up to it under Kerr.

Neal X

As much heat as Kerr has gotten that's always been his strong suit, managing players and relationships. Took a little longer than we would've liked but anybody in his shoes would have a tough time with that task too

Luke Zhang

This is so true, these NBA fans are going to have an aneurysm when they see the foul-baiting and rolling around in the Prem lol... on another note, COYS, North London is white all day!

김 보천

and i have full faith all pf that will come along. he flashed his playmaking on the ignite but it was never quite consistent. he's making the right read more times than not now and i believe it's only up from here. in terms of his shot, im hopeful since its not a confidence issue, I'm certain he drills it every day and he's shown improvement this year

Johnny Marko

ok. yeah, i figured Paolo was a bit quicker than Wagner but worked out in the end. Thought it might be klay wanting to guard P to feed his ego

Mikey H

We can defend but we can’t shoot other than Chef. What we need is a young dynamic shooter with decent defensive skills. Moody is not that guy. If trading Draymond can get Bane/maybe Isiah Joe/ Austin Reeves/ Duncan Robinson, I say we should pull the trigger.

Natto Santo

They grew up playing/watching soccer where ref baiting and over dramatizing fouls is a huge part of the sport

Gunners4life

I don't know what the percentages are but I feel like CP3's shooting has been fat better as of late.

Omer Ali

If he’s hot he’s a thot 😆 lmfao

Cristian Vela

Really stuck out how big Franz Wagner was next to Kuminga. He kinda towered over him. I like that JK shows up with energy when playing these guys from his draft class tho, I like that competitive fire. Klay had a good moment of reflection postgame and said he had a heart to heart with Kerr. Hopefully we get this version of Klay the rest of the season, this feels like his most valuable role. Solid d on big wings, hit timely shots, and hustle. Ik everyone’s been killing him this year but this was encouraging and we gotta shout him out for his floor game 🙏🏼

Luke Zhang

We got championship Klay! (At least for this game). My god, what a difference in his defensive effort. I guess Kerr finally gave him the facts of life after the Dallas game. Let's hope he can stick in that headspace.

Mike Peterson

Paolo prob a little more plodding vs Wagner who’s more straight line speed, prob why they had JK on Wagner I would think

Luke Zhang

Alch is damn near the cheat sheet for the video staff

Seb P

Loved that Elaine joke 😂 keeping us y2k kids happy

Julian Mihdi

the fact kuminga is doing so well with having virtually no plays ran for him makes me smile like a little kid. it shows me that he truly has superstar potential and that he's ahead of schedule when you factor in how raw he was perceived on draft night

Johnny Marko

I left this comment on your youtube video but did you notice when wiggins fell to the floor after doing that spin move in the post but no warriors players went over to help him up, he was down for a good 5 seconds and Trayce and CP3 just stood there like he wasn’t even down on the floor. I know u caught it against another team but i forget if that was Wiggins also. That kinda just tells you the way some players on the team vibe with wiggs, mans to quiet and most likely never hangs out off the court with the guys and i think the players are don’t really vibe with him. The only guy that brought wiggs out of his shell was Pool boy but now he gone man has just gone extra introverted lol

Philip Heston

haha - I don't know why but this back and forth was the highlight of the chat today

Stevie Ray

Definitely agreed on this

Natto Santo

Wiggins definitely play much better off the bench. It is a great sign

Natto Santo

why would I delete it? Everyone here understands what I'm saying, stop being dramatic.

Ryan becker

Why are you making out like euros are the first to foul bait? This is also an unnecessarily hateful comment, please consider deleting it.

Captain Rossco

anyone else notice how whiney these Euro hoopers are? I mean they have already manipulated the refs to exhaustion. They take advantage of offensive fouls by lowering their shoulder, like how are you supposed to guard that without fouling, IE JOKIC?! I kind see why Draymond punched dude .

Ryan becker

Unc, what do you think of Wiggins as a potential Iggy 2.0, happy to come off the bench, play key defense. Maybe that’s his path. Although, I suppose the intangibles are different (passing, IQ, clutch gene)

Michael Milne

Everybody always talk about how amazing it was that we got a full season of Otto Porter Jr, and rightfully so. But it’s gotten to the point where it’s just as amazing that we got a full season out of GPII as well. Take a look at his games played outside of our championship season. Love the guy to death but it’s literally so hard for him to stay healthy

Alaase Shambe

Klay said in the post game interview he had a talk with Kerr about him wanting it so bad its bringing negative energy, sounds like he opened up and had a DMC with him. Hopefully he keeps this klay is the klay moving foward.

Mason Joe

Alch, somebody needs to add you to the coaching staff, or at least cut you a check! When I saw Trace cock that ball back I almost fell off my couch! Somebody is filing your shit and serving it up to these cats. I hope they keep listening, that is why we are all here for it! Happy New Year!

Patsy Ralls

good stuff overall. any thoughts why they have klay on bancharo? would think jk is the better option. also, that out of bounds save by klay off of the TJD block in the 4th was a welcome surprise. seemed like he really wanted the game & not the stats at that point. hopefully he can keep that energy goin a bit

Mikey H

Wiggins and moody in a trade, who do we get?

Daniel Gadomski

I know I'm a broken record. Trade Moody already. His second DNP for no reason. Bitadze for Moody straight up. Bitadze could be another big for the Warriors. Moody isn't a ball handler but he could learn and take pressure off of Banchero.

Goku44

Still is astonishing how little we use kuminga on design plays to create a mismatch or get him down hill. With that said I don't want to hear about Wagner or Paolo because kuminga looked just as good as them and is playing for a coach who is doing everything in his power to limit him lol

k fish

I wonder if we could possibly trade moody for one of their bigs that have been buried in the rotation.. they need shooting and although moody isn’t a knock down shooter he still has great potential of being a trevor ariza 3 and d player for a team… Moody for Wendell carter.. who says no?

Offtopic K

This team just boggles my mind. Is Klay Thompson just gonna be a coin flip for the rest of the season? One night he'll be selfish asshole Klank Thompson who plays no defense. Then the next night he will be like last night, committed role-player Klay Thompson. It was nice to see Klay play the way he did and for Kuminga to have an exceptional game. Despite the Magic being really good across the board (with some luck for Banchero having an off night), one thing that stood out to me the most about this game??? Despite the score, I never FELT like the Warriors were gonna lose. Even when they dug themselves into that super early hole. There wasnt a single point in this game where I felt "uh oh, here we go again". And that speaks volumes to how everyone was playing. Few TOs. Timely shot making. Sound defense (for the most part). And they played as a TEAM. Gee, its almost as if you, when you do those things, you can actually win games!!!!! Lol nah, I kid. Lets just hope that this is a good sign for 2024 for them. I caution myself and others to truly believe it though because we all said the same exact thing on that 5 game win streak. Will Klay revert back to Klank after 4-5 wins in a row again? We'll see. This was a good game. But forgive me for keeping my eyebrows raised in doubt. Also also.....I really hope GP2 isnt injured long term again. Just terrible luck for the guy. I love him! And the Warriors need him. Pray he returns soon. The silver lining is maybe Moody actually gets to play basketball again.

Jansen E

“As much rhythm as Elaine Bennis.” Seinfeld reference for the old heads. So basically if Steph doesn’t play elite - top 10 - on offense, we don’t have a chance.

Gary

That offense was all freestyle. Felt like a record for shots made on broken plays. The system slacks against tall, lengthy front courts and it’s great that they didn’t force it

Erin Laskey

Have you noticed that klay seems to like getting passes from JK? It seems like his percentage is way higher when Kuminga hits him

JSII

lmaoooo can you imagine if, through all this, we had Dwight on this roster

yan't get right

yooooo, that Seinfeld reference... ELITE!

AK

When you have an owner like Joe Lacob I think there is potential to see us contend again in 5 or 6 years after Steph is gone. But banners arent easy to get in this league so who knows how long it'll be until we see another hung in the Chase Center.

Aceec

"It's time to Go yo ass home" LMAOOO

Andrew Lee

Life after Steph is gonna be quite sobering. The young cores in the West not only have more promise but those teams are loaded with draft equity to upgrade. Klay Thompson's expiring + picks has value one the market and there may still be a team who can sell themselves on having Draymond amp their defense up. Instead of an acceptance of this mediocre roster, they need to gamble on maximizing the Wardell window--because once he's gone, there likely will be no banners hung for decades to come.

Stevie Ray

I think we need to switch our focus to just enjoying the twilight of these guys careers vs winning a chip. Expecting high level of consistency feels like a dream. Maybe I’m just pessimistic but until the big 3 retires, we might be hovering around 40 - 45 wins

ItsWhATItIs

As much as i love wiggins playing better again i just don’t think his competitive spirit will hold up for this team and its future. At first i didn’t want him gone and i still don’t WANT him gone but i think going all in on kuminga gives us the best chance at winning again and not this year but maybe within the next 2. Nothing is guaranteed but kind of like san antonio and have kuminga be the new kawhi and win an aging steph 1 more title. As many assets as we have our front office year after year never makes a big move and im not holding out hope for a blockbuster or even mid tier trade coming

Brad30

Wiggins has looked like himself since he got benched, really encouraging.

José Francisco

add Siakam to the 21 championship team w Pods and TDJ and hope for the best. Happy New Year Alchemy!

Mario Ivan

Boy I was upset with Kerr for not playing moody I hope he plays him since gp3 is injured

Jeffery Rosario

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