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Warriors vs Raptors | GM-36 |

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Warriors vs Raptors | GM-36 |

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Would you trade for Bojan Bogdanovic straight up for Wiggs?

Raze

Brother Steph had checked out he wants a trade asap Because this is 4 games now we been blown out I’m watching the pelicans game now and they came back to cut it to 9 kuminga, moody and klay come out wiggins and the other fools come in and it’s over 30 now

haris

lol!

Allison Hendrix

There are more refs under LeBron's payroll than I thought.......and Adam Silver endorses this. _______________ I miss Otto's presence on the court. I appreciate the 2021-2022 squad a lot. That season was amazing in the sense that management, coaches and players were all on the same page. Steph - isn't he usually like this in the first few months especially when he's trying to get others going early in the season and then he gets back to GOAT mode

Bailey

I was wondering if she served him divorce papers he looked so disoriented lol.

deb m.

Right. The one that ended was a glitch, but it happening so soon after that ended with just like 3 games in between is a talking point already on him slowing down.. which is likely true too

Ivan (Vanya) Kashperuk

Except it ended several games ago. The new one hardly matters at all.

B Master

Yea but he's still Jordan Poole. Much more valuable to us than to anyone else. CP3 is hurt and Wiggins' stock has never been lower. It's a buy low-sell low trade. And we keep Moody and Kuminga.

Joshuah Jerge

Poole worst +- in league rn

Gsw4L

I think the reason to bring Steph back in was for him to get at least 1 three for his personal streak to continue

Ivan (Vanya) Kashperuk

So maybe it wasn't Steph being distracted by them planning to trade Green, maybe it was Steph tanking to show his displeasure at trading Green, and now Warriors have stepped it back and indicated they don't want to trade Green. So maybe Steph wasn't just sulking but trying to flex his ability to tank the season.

B Master

Wiggins and CP3 to Washington for Kuzma and Poole... who says "no"?

Joshuah Jerge

Good call, Alch. Hadn't even considered Curry being thrown off by some devastating news but that certainly would seem to explain his aura last night. Maybe Dray is indeed on the move. We'll find out soon I suppose. During the game I was more focused on what you pointed out about the way teams are blanketing Curry with a huge defender and how that same huge defender is sprinting back and just obliterating him under the basket. It's been happening a lot lately but last night was just relentless. Coaching staff is going to have to look for a solution there. At any rate, Klay certainly provided an inspiring performance on an otherwise bleak evening, He played within himself (mostly) and look dialed in on defense too. On the other end of the spectrum, Corey Joseph, man, I don't know what you see in that guy. Can't score to save his life and how many threes did Toronto bomb right in his grill? I'm having trouble coming up with another player more inept on offense at his position. I'm sticking to my mantra of ZERO minutes for Corey, absolutely zero. I'd rather watch us lose with Moody, Trayce, and JK learning the ropes (I don't care how painful it is) than with Joseph fumbling around like a floundering trout. Go Warriors. Go Alch.

Childe Costa

Man, sleepwalking all around. Steph barely caring. Wiggs a shell. Kerr can't be bothered. Klay showed up. Only thing that's been exciting has been the young guns, they cared and hustled. Wish it was contagious.

John Z

I like Lauri Markennen for us a lot more than Siakam. I don’t know how realistic either of those guys are for this squad. But I’m sure Lauri is the better fit

sleeve nash

A lot of famous people have said they wished they could remember what it was like to be anonymous and have nobody recognize them or care who they were, at least for a little while. As a nobody myself, I've learned to appreciate it : ) it's nice to go to a grocery store at 9 PM in my PJs without shaving and not worry about TMZ snapping a shot.

Neal X

Does Wiggs even do interviews these days? I would pay a reporter a thousand bucks to just straight up ask him "what the actual fuck is wrong with you, bro?" Guy went from the #2 option on a Championship team to one of the worst players in the league and that's not even an exaggeration. -29? Jesus. I wish I could get paid tens of millions just to show up to work but not actually do anything.

Neal X

It's just inexcusable that he even still gets the play time that he does while Moody gets iced out. What do they think is going to be helped by trotting this guy out on the court? Man's sabotaging us straight up.

Neal X

Shoulda load managed then.

Neal X

But yeah it's also undeniable he's been playing like shit for many games

Seb P

Perhaps, but if you look at all the other original starters Steph was the only one who showed up this season. That's gotta be deflating and that's a huge load to carry. I have to think that if at least most of the other original starters (Klay, WIggs, Dray, Loon) showed up, Steph would be playing much better. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Seb P

Bars 😂

Athletic Alchemy

He wasn’t trying to spend more time with his family

Athletic Alchemy

That’s good call! He is Bron-ing right now

Athletic Alchemy

🙏🏽

Athletic Alchemy

He’s gotta go

Athletic Alchemy

Honestly, I think the raptors should prioritize targetting Canadian players. They're the only Canadian team so they're basically Team Canada. We know how much the non-American hoopers love repping their countries in FIBA and the Olympics. After the OG Anonuoby trade I was surprised to hear everyone gassing up Quickley but nobody expecting much from RJ the Canadian. I'm not surprised at all to see him balling now

joss gitlin

yeah, i meant if they have to give up kuminga. def don't think its worth it but at least also get Poeltl if they do

Mikey H

When I was at the Warriors Pistons game, there was one of those really quick player survey talk things shown on the jumbotron. It listed 3 super powers: mind reading, invisibility, and something I don't recall. The players were supposed to put one as their number 1, one as being on the bench, and one to completely remove. It made perfect sense that Chris Paul and Podziemski chose mind reading as their first choice. They both gave reasons about being able to read other players and know what the like to do and such. But what I really found interesting was that Steph chose invisibility and chose to put mind reading in the trash. His reasoning was actually related for both. His reasoning for invisibility was about the luxury of not being known or to able to be like you're not there.. I forgot his exact words, but it really got my mind going. His reasoning for putting mind reading in the trash was that it doesn't matter what other people think, because he could care less about what other people think of him. I feel like these two responses are ultimately tied together. And who knows.. I feel like it's a small window to where his mind is at right now. I just found it very curious . A more trained mind in the psychiatric studies probably can elaborate more.

Tony H

Yeah I was actually unsure a few years ago whether or not my own passion for the team was team based or player based. It's pretty difficult to watch Steph and not be dazzled. However, during these last few years, it has been made very clear to me that it's the team that I want to see win.. and I care a lot less about individual egos and, in particular, behaviors and execution (or lack thereof) that is directly detrimental to the overall winning of the team.

Tony H

Hey Alch, not sure what you've done but the video quality in this one was MUCH better. I know you mentioned a change in the setup a few breakdowns ago but the last few weren't anything like this one, good stuff. 👌 On the current state of the Dubs... I hope we don't lose JK, he's damn near the only exciting thing about this team lately.

Yavor Danev

From the Athletic: The game flipped back in the Raptors’ direction soon after Wiggins entered the game. He was a minus-29 in his 17 minutes and is now a cumulative minus-150 in 831 minutes this season. So they’ve outscored opponents by 157 with him off the floor and been outscored by 150 with him on the floor."

Gsw4L

Everyone deserves blame rn but he’s the QB so

Athletic Alchemy

Maaayybe! Your right he doesn’t look great rn

Athletic Alchemy

😂

Athletic Alchemy

Instagram era has made it more about players than teams. But look at the NFL it’s all about the logo on the helmet nvm who is getting it done

Athletic Alchemy

Cant be crazy. No way warriors get poeltl or siakam without Kuminga

Andy Williams

Alch I'm 100% with you on Steph. And I think there's a lot of Steph only fans out there that were introduced to basketball with his revolution in 2016. But there's a lot of very LeBron-fan-esque fans with Steph where any criticism is slander and they're more interested in boosting his legacy than what's best for the team. Like I feel there's a part of these fans that are ok with the team being bad so they can run with their "no help" and "my fav player is a victim" agendas. You know classic LeBron fan behavior. I just don't really like the concept of rooting for a player only in a team sport, if you can't tell lmao

Luke Zhang

Steph looked like an early morning scrim after a night out, should've been benched entire game.

Vulacior

I chose watching the Bills-Dolphins game over watching this. Glad I made the right decision

Branden Edwards

haha. I think he fits kerrs prototype- he got that euro game thing goin. I actually think he would play him but u never know. Also, i can't spell 😑

Mikey H

‘when you see Jerome…” you can even kill something that’s already dead, Alc. awesome.

Patrick Kennedy

I really need the Niners to win the SB lol. If they get bounced, all I'll have to watch is this Warriors team for the next 3 months playing like absolute shit. I cant believe this team, with a worse bench, made it to the WCSF last year. How was that even possible. Its genuinely shocking that after getting rid of Poole, the entire team looks WORSE (though I admit that the young guys are promising). Im over Kerr. Im over Draymond. Im over Wiggins. When this season is done, 2 of those 3 names need to be gone. If Draymond is incident free and plays well the rest of this season, then maybe theres reason to keep him. But his contract should be WAY cheaper now. If Kerr is the coach next season...........................Idk man.

Jansen E

Might Steph have been sick? That's what it looks like to me

Kevin Weng

Personally don't think it's fair to blame Steph for this. That isn't to say that he's been perfect, like you've pointed out his defense and decision making haven't been great, but he has been carrying this team at 35 and it's clear his body is wearing down. It looks like something is happening behind closed doors that's affecting him, like maybe Kuminga and/or Moody want a trade, maybe Kerr ain't coming back next year, etc.

Seb P

Kerr would glue Poeltl to the bench because he's 7 feet tall and we don't do that around here lol

KuraiT

I've already checked out on this season long ago, partly because of how unwatchable the NBA is currently and partly how unwatchable the team is lol I just come here to support Alch.

KuraiT

Highlight of the night was Kuminga swatting Trent then standing over him and letting him know. Saw those 2 talking earlier in the game Trent is lowkey a yappy dude. I just liked someone showing some pride and fight at least. This feels like a tough spot where the core isn’t good enough where we’re one piece away, but we don’t have a Haliburton level young guy who we can give the keys too and just flip the page and build for the future. Maybe JK is that but it’s def not a sure thing. So what do you do? Could be a Dunleavy legacy moment coming up in a few weeks.

Luke Zhang

Steph has been like this before. He will snap out of it when Draymond comes back.

Becky Lafrenz

lol was thinkin the same thing

Mikey H

He has had some sobering statements recently

Gary

I know I have been championing Moody but the fact that he hasn't been playing proves that Kerr doesn't like him at all and it can't just be about basketball. Moody's post game presser was very telling. He didn't pull a Kuminga and call out anyone. He just seems resigned to the fact that the coach doesn't like him.

Goku44

still don't want them to do a JK for Siakam but I think gettin potle as well would b a good look. Can't see toronto puttin up too much of a stink on that - but it is masai so....

Mikey H

Small ball only works against larger teams when you can shoot, otherwise the advantage is lost. We are at the mercy of the rest of the league now. Seems pretty obvious to us, what about the management and Kerr?

Tyler Durden

😂😂

Mikey H

What happened to Wiggins showing up against his Canadian brethren? It seemed like Barret wanted to show the world he was better suited for that "Maple Jordan" nickname after last night's performance. To me, Wiggins is completely checked out. We have to try and trade him for whatever we can get at this stage and hope the selling point is that he just needs a change of scenery. I really think the Poole trade really messed with his already fragile psyche. The fact that the organization chose Draymond over Poole in hindsight after everything that's gone on this season is probably unsettling for any young player. Any goodwill this organization has built up over their championship years is probably nonexistent at this point.

Jimmy Ji

What did I tell ya'll? The team is cooked. We barely beat DETROIT. Trust me when I say, you'll feel a lot better after games when you accept that this team is going nowhere this season. They might manipulate us a bit and mess around in the play-in, and win 1-2 games in a playoff series. But they arent going anywhere this year. The sooner we accept that as reality, the sooner we all just move on to next season. Get rid of Wiggins. The man gives zero fucks about baskteball.

Jansen E

That was just a disappointing outing last night. How do you give up 38 points to RJ Barret?!?

Windfury

Kerr talked to Klay about his poor energy, curious if Curry gets that same pep talk. Dub nation hates criticizing the chef but honesty he has been ass. The clutch shots are covering the fact that he is not playmaking ( he’s the greatest decoy of all time recognize when to pass) he isn’t playing defense, he’s not communicating on the the floor. It’s frustrating to watch. Right now He reminds me of LeBron, you know when leBron hints that he hates the lineup and starts playing uninspired lol. Think early lakers days.

Danae

The loss sucks but I feel like Kuminga is getting better every game.

Vincent Zendejas

Side note: did you guys peep Bob Myers is working with the Commanders right now? Just read that he’s assisting with their search process for new head coach.

sleeve nash

Prime time Maple Jordan baby! Also we were due for another role player 40 ball so Rj went ahead and delivered that one as well. Each game provides more insight on just how mismatched we are with 80% of the teams across the league. There’s 2 definitive direction we go right now imo. We can Punt Kerr, punt the old core and rebuild around Steph and the youngins OR keep Kerr/core and try to milk one more chip out this small window 🤷‍♂️

sleeve nash

Alch you should change the "GM-36" to "GP-36" in the title -- standing for "Group Therapy" session #36.

Neal X

I wonder if Ayesha got Steph a license plate holder for Xmas that reads, "I'd rather be golfing"

Allison Hendrix

I wish I knew what was going on in Steph's head. All of his public statement are 100% Hopium, but I don't think he's actually happy and I don't know if he believes what he's saying. I just wish we had an honest look at the actual thought processes and beliefs of the guy who this entire Org is beholden to.

Thomas Ogas

Chef was distracted or he is just getting old? Klay is finally looking better but Wiggins can’t be . played at this point. It is going to be bad.

Natto Santo

After that RJ 3 and the TO after the basket, I had a feeling this was going to be a tough night and sure enough it did. Not excusing the Dubs bad play, but Toronto on paper was just a bad matchup with their athleticism and length. Klay shot well, JK powered thru, and Moody got some shots to fall, but they were outmatched from the start. There were bad performances all around, including Steph, but none more disappointing than Wiggins . His first start since his benching and he comes out once again with no energy. Think he needs to keep coming off the bench until a move is made. And it's becoming more apparent that not having another playmaker next to Steph has hurt them all year.

Nick Elliston

Wiggins would retire tomorrow if he could. He treats the NBA like a miserable 9 to 5 job

Saad Atiq

How long ago did Mike Dunleavy give Klay and wiggs the “20 games” to prove themselves

Ben D

Don’t know what to say anymore. The season is over without a major trade.

Cullen Vaughn

im so glad i didnt watch this game after i was checking the box score throughout the night and we had Dolphins/bills on at the same time but mannnnn this game was rough. Toronto has some nice pieces but they aint that good and we just looked outmatched like you said.

Matt Hanna

Time to punt on the season honestly. Can we get into the playoffs? Sure. Maybe get through the 1st round but we’d be lying to ourselves if we think this team can win a championship. Watching 95.7 with Bonta, I agree with them where I don’t even know if we’re 2 pieces away from winning a championship

Offtopic K

I don't think you can call Wiggins' shot the worst bank shot you've seen if you watched Westbrook's Lakers bank shot lowlights video that was like 8 minutes long lol. The audience was legit in danger with some of those

james v

Wiggins is a wild boy.I have not seen someone fall off in their prime this hard and fast. It not that Wiggins and Kuminga cant play together because they are both wings.It is because Wiggins is not a basketball player at the moment.You might have to give up asset for someone to take on that contract.

mr.bean

Yup, and getting green back

weng

This season is getting harder and harder to watch. This is worse than last year.

Edgy SC

Do I want to remember this game? Well trayce and moody played great so why not

sam baines


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