SamuKata
athleticalchemy
athleticalchemy

patreon


Warriros vs Celtics GM-8

https://streamable.com/24k48l

Warriros vs Celtics GM-8

Comments

Yes election day without substantial acts of violence and harm that affect masses. Congratulations! Back to basketball.

Dale Happy Knowles

We still hooked on trading for a big gun. Folks this not video games! The NBA game requires elite chemistry and synergy to win. A big trade will blow up everything we build in the off-season and developed in the pre and regular season. Which player out there is worth that risk? The only trade I would make is one that swaps a guard for an athletic center. That limts the pickings but as much as I love me some Gannis, it can't include him unless we forego this season. 1. Jarrett Allen or 2. Walker Kessler Walker seems the best trade but Jarrett is my favourite. What you think?

Dale Happy Knowles

We are guard heavy, I agree with Alch that one of Moody, Melton, GP2, or Podz will start feeling like the "odd man out" that should be traded for a true big if possible. Personally, I feel like it's Melton, because even though he's definitely a good player, everyone else has been around longer and feels like a true part of the system. That, and the questions around his durability.

Neal X

But they didn't have a Steph Curry, they had 16ppg Paul Millsap as their leading scorer lol that's taking "win by committee" to an extreme

thomas

Seeing Wiggins and Looney return to their old form is honestly one of the best surprises I've had all year.

Neal X

JK is going to Aiyuk us. Better to get him up out of here while we can still get some value for him.

John Pettus

Except for the bomb threats, you mean.

John Pettus

Why are the Warriors at the bottom of the league in pace & defensive efficiency?

Jerry Heverly

This was a great game. If we get one from either OKC or Cleveland, it will be amazing. But I'm not banking on it.

John Pettus

I'm wary because of that Budenholzer Atl Hawks team that was so good in the regular season but then had no power in the playoffs but who knows!

Jeremy

Excellent breakdown, Alch. Thank you!

Alex Jenkins

That was definitely a foul on White and a good call by Marc Davis. The replay you included showed it very well. He kicks Looney's left leg with his knee and then hits Steph's left ankle with his right leg.

Slava G

If we beat Cavs, we do not need a big. If we lose by a big margin, we acquire a low cost big. We should focus on rebounding, Defense cannot be taught easily, it is habit, IQ, hand-eye… way too difficult to improve enough to make a big difference. Also one thing can be improved is the FT %.

Natto Santo

Wemby is a crazy strong favorite vs the field for DPOY, and Draymond is just a small piece of "the field"

Tom L

The way the team is rolling, I suspect management is worried about the risk of ANY trade breaking up the vibe. So the idea of them trading Draymond mid season seems unthinkable even if you were right from an X’s & O’s POV.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

Tatum looked like he wanted to cry. Ppl say Cs lost because JB & Po was out but they forget so was Melton and Podski. What I like about the game was that Steph did not force any shots and the Leopard (JK) hustled on D. BTW Alc, JK seem to be elite when he is not forced to think about it. The last second shots, transition attacks, fast moving swings while on D. It's natural. The definition of a pro is one who can do it at an elite level of perfection without thinking about what you doing. More reps on D and this team will be unstoppable if JK becomes a pro on D. Madness! Great team win

Dale Happy Knowles

I'd get one of these for my Pops for sure 🥂

Stevie Ray

Congratulation to America on another violence free election day.

Dale Happy Knowles

Think if we get a superstar or even a star, we winning a chip (if we don't have to give up too many players and jus picks). JK is expendable, he doesn't fit with starters, and he wants too much to be a bench player. Kerr doesn't really trust him either. At this point the best scenario is we get a star, and JK goes to a team that fits his talents and let's him play as he makes mistakes.

Chaz G

He kinda reminds me of Livingston. A ball handler that can make a shot in the clutch, good defense and smart player that slow. Lol

Chaz G

It's 7 games in? And they have only faced one decent team without their superstar and great role player..... A lil early

Chaz G

Was wondering this too!

Sam Jefferson

Because he wants a max. Wiggins, not moody took a max and I think right now they are both better defenders then kuminga. I really don't want to do a trade but if we do I'm only willing to part with Melton and kuminga and gui. That's it. And only kuminga and this is for a big body. I can only think of a handful of players but not willing to give up on the depth.

Carla Davis

That's fine - I understand the podcast narrative piece and why others would vote for him based on rep and how the award is usually given. But reports keep coming out that the Warriors are still big star hunting - and to get a 50 million dollar player, you need salaries. So my question was to understand, is Wiggins or Dray more irreplaceable ÷ not to argue the semantics of how awards are given. I don't particularly like any of the big star trade equations available - regardless of which would be included in a deal. But I feel like I'm missing something, with the poor rebounding, and lost step on the perimeter - he doesn't look like the Draymond that shut down Fox a few years ago in Sac, let alone small ball 5 that habitually dwarfed Davis and could be left on an island against Jokić.

Stevie Ray

Honestly starting to believe that winning by committee is superior to having a second star. More versatile, harder to scout, less predictable. Feels like we can make a run at any point of the game, not just with the starters or a "death lineup." Giving up this depth could also harm the consistently dominant team defense, which is a) more reliable than a second scorer and b) critical for the transition offense. I know it's still too early to say for sure, but that's how I'm starting to feel.

thomas

Thats a great compliment! thanks brotha

Athletic Alchemy

yeah Mood played better than I though initially, the blown closeout stuck with me live

Athletic Alchemy

I will for sure very humbled by all the love

Athletic Alchemy

will see how im feeling.. I will be going live more often for sure tho

Athletic Alchemy

I see him as more of the new Andre tbh

Athletic Alchemy

thanks brother!

Athletic Alchemy

Thats a loaded question, the DPOY is always kind of a team award imo so as long as we are at the top of the league he is going to get the credit. I think part of it is he shouldn't be able to guard 7fters and zion like this at this stage in his career. There is aspect of being the underdog and then of course reputation. That said on a island end of game not many you taking over him to get a stop

Athletic Alchemy

It's just a shame that a game like this where he is solid and played well with limited minutes, giving you double digits and some pretty solid defense on the other team's star player, is met with immediate calls for trades when honestly, I'm more excited to watch JK some nights than even Steph cause of how explosive and entertaining his style of play can be

Irvin Mugo

turning down a buck fifty or somewhere abouts will do that with fan base but I hear you

Athletic Alchemy

I can reactivate it on my shop, I let you know

Athletic Alchemy

That's a really good point. I can see how that would bother people, although some of the others guys who got paid I feel like got overpaid. My thing with that is, Kuminga hasn't thrown a fit over it. How many players in the league would get their offer rejected, and then come off the bench and play with energy and joy even though there is really no reason to be energetic and optimistic when some of the coaching staff and over half of the fan base seems all of a sudden against your success?

Irvin Mugo

yo Alch where can I get one of those "be like Loon" hats?

Daniel Fries

Idk man, the rumors are what they are, but nothing in MDJ’s track record says “I’m the kinda guy who’d offer JK $30mn”. Like, if JK was on a different team, could you imagine MDJ trading for him??

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

I really don't get all the Bobby P love. Dude not really that good if you remove Giannis from his side defensively. And he really has Kelly Oubre level BBall IQ.

Jordan Smith

Rather target Brook and play him 18-24 a night at stretch big to empowered kuminga’s driving ability

Vincent

He’s been bad and selfish, not someone we need to bring into the fold, especially if we’re giving them kuminga…

Vincent

Yeah, I feel like in the past, DubNation was split down the middle on JK, but now it’s really leaning negative. I’m not sure I get it, but who knows? I think the contract rumor annoyed a lot of people.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

What was impressive to me is that we scored 20 points in the last 3:30 of the game. Pretty impressive. Good W.

Crimson

You can look at stat lines all you want. But with the minutes that they got against a good team, Moses and Kuminga both had good games. People need to stop the hate on Kuminga, cause he is playing well. The mistakes are there sure, but everyone is just completely blind to some of the horrible mistakes Wiggins makes, but never give any grace, let alone the massive grace, that Wiggins gets and it's BS.

Irvin Mugo

Loved Podz didn't play - somehow Stephs' 21 2nd half points would have been attributed to the undefined intangibles of BP.

Stevie Ray

Nate Duncan claimed that Giannis' defensive impact has not been what it was back in his MVP years and has dropped off for the last few years, alongside being injured the last 2 playoffs. I haven't watched much of the Bucks this year, have you seen that Antetokounmpo is still the two-way monster that would be worth all the young players, picks, and depth?

Stevie Ray

lay out the specifics ≠

Stevie Ray

"Steph had that pep in his step ... the smell of the champagne in those carpets." LMAO ... brilliant Alch.

Christopher Rice

Moody - starts...plays 13 minutes Had 6 boards and hit the majority of his shots. However, defensively, I think his tendency and instincts as a defender are directly at odds with what Kerr requires. Just not sure how this part of his game is going develop without 15+ minutes a game guaranteed to him. Hard to play good defense when you know you're on a short leash.

Stevie Ray

how do we feel about cam johnson has a trade target? He fits in nicely and may not cost much. Great W

Dami I

Alch: I watched the game twice trying to understand the hype around Draymond as a top DPOY candidate. As a center or a free-saftey, I'm not seeing the tier-1 impact like the previous versions of himself or a prime Giannis or the early season AD. Feel like if the name on the jersey was different, Green wouldn't be in this convo for the most elite defensive impact player in all of basketball at this stage in his career. Can you explain what I'm failing to see?

Stevie Ray

The most accurate comment I’ve seen all day 🤣

TJ Maccc

Excellent job with this breakdown, Alch! You really nailed the key moments and tempo of the game, and chose the right time to end it. Getting me extra hyped about this team!

Thomas Ogas

It's somewhere in the middle. The narrative being pushed that he's the 2022 version of himself is just a farce. For two years it's like he's allergic to the jackhammer attack at the basket. And in his all-star 2-22 season, he would hit at least one or two big 2nd/3rd quarter tough 2's every game that has been substituted for the analytic 3 that may or may not be suited for his specific skillset considering he's one of the better purebred scorers of his generation. All that said ÷ defensively he is currently irreplaceable and playing with a certain buy-in that wasn't present last season. That urgency on the perimeter paired with his know-how and his knowledge of the premium wings in this league make him leaps and bounds more impactful than any other options at the wing on this roster. * A side note though, 2-22 Wiggs was a secondary rim protector, something he has not really shown at all this season. - All that said, offensively, he's been good - but more of an average starting 3-level scorer - which is fine if he's gonna be our best defender. But - I'd suggest rewatching some of the breakdowns from 2-22 before comparing the two players offensively, they're very different players at very different levels.

Stevie Ray

Is Slomo our new Otto Porter Jr?

Alex Kay

Alch you gotta go live if the dubs take down the last undefeated. I will crack open a grapefruit Cosco and watch. Yo look up Aaron Turner of Versus Basketball… JK like I thought is his biggest client. Dude look like a straight goofball. He also reps Rozier and Tre Mann. Those are his other noteworthy clients. JK is not getting sound advice 💯. JK is nice … but he was being shown love with the $30MPY… the new CBA is going to give him a reality check.. and I for one will blame Aaron’s goofy ass.

Jello Smooth

Kerr crunch time masterclass tbh. "16 game player" Facts!!!

yan't get right

Man I needed this win for my mental health. I couldnt go through Tuesday AND losing to the Celtics in a 48 hr span. The end of the game (like literal last 2 minutes) was a bit anticlimactic because of the freethrows. But we were like 90+% in the 4th quarter!!!! That was amazing. Wiggs and Draymond both making them when they counted. Someone correct me if Im wrong, but isnt this Queta guy the same guy who was on that Kings G-league team who kept destroying us? Or am I just confusing him with someone else? Cuz if they are the same guy, then he is exactly why I wanted him back then. Somehow the Celtics were able to replace Timelord with a guy just like him but without injuries. How tf did they do that?!?! Tatum absolutely does NOT want the Wiggs smoke. I counted maybe 2 times he actually went for a shot with Wiggs as the primary defender. Every other time they did everything they could to switch Wiggs off of him. Wiggs is the certified Tatum stopper (with a shoutout to Bjelica hahahaha). This win felt good, although no Jaylen Brown does bring us back down to reality. The thing Im worried about for OKC is that this blitzing defense will NOT work. I watched that OKC-DEN game, and OKC's entire roster can beat man-to-man. Double teaming anyone of those guys will lead to wide open 3 or a dunk. I dont know how we are gonna be able to defend them. Unfortunately, it could be a blowout, especially with still lack of size and lack of ballhandling with no Podz. Finally, my hottest take of the season so far: If there is a big that comes on the market and wants to play with Steph and Kerr, I'd be willing to give up Kuminga and a far bench player/picks. But thats it. Like Kuminga + Gui + a 2027 second rounder or Kuminga + Melton. But it has to be a Daniel Gafford-type of big. I dont know if Id give that up for Valanciunas. But we cant lose Moody and GP2. They play their roles so well, losing either of them would poke a hole in this rotation that I dont know how we'd fix. I dont trust Melton to be healthy, especially for a deep playoff run. And as awesome as Kuminga's late takeover was a few games ago, I think we can trade that and be better off adding size.

Jansen E

LMAO Jesus

Julian

Might be interesting to see which warriors and cavs team we see Friday Alc. Interesting thing is that Cavs look very jittery the last few games. Some clutch shooting helped them push vs B2B Bucks, but I'm not sure how they'll react to elite defensive team like the Warriors coming to town. Lets see if their legs have strength for two more games. I'm going to say they beat Cavs, no idea what happens with OKC though.

Julian

How about Buddy’s defense around 11:05 when you highlighted Kuminga’s defense?🔥

Terrel Edmondson

Well...now were gonna need you to do this ritual every game in crunch time if it worked:) Looney is the one that truly looks like 2.0 version of his 2-22 self

Stevie Ray

Reserving judgement until we finish with the gauntlet we're going through right now, but I'm very happy with the culture this team has cultivated. That being said I'd sell out all these kids to get Giannis.

Vulacior

That's exactly how I am lol

Nathan Glanzer

Hope you go Live on YT more Alch, it was so hype seeing all the huge donos you got 😂 I been here since the jump and seeing all your growing success and followers makes me happy vicariously

Dashaya Toney

Lol that guy did look like JD Vance hahaha

Nathan Glanzer

Draymond and podz r questionable

Aben

LOL

Allison Hendrix

This win was a good one

Erin Laskey

We’re so deep I didn’t even realize Podz wasn’t playing until catching up on the live stream and Unc mentioned it. 😂 Love Moody’s effort at the start, can’t underestimate the hustle plays he made, kept them from getting out too far ahead while we remembered how to make a shot. “Dropped Tatum off like dropping Deuce at school.” Too good.

Special K

Boston plays like Mazula has their families in a dungeon somewhere.

Nick Deuel

Disagree on your Wiggins take. He’s locked in this year. Yeah he missed shots but what’s important is there’s no hesitation from him; he’s just aggressively going for it on offense. And his D has been on point. The smoked layup - hey, who hasn’t smoked a layup? He jumped goofy, it happens, nothing to see here.

Special K

Great content always seems to fly by! 15 minutes felt like 2! Appreciate you. Been supporting for a long time. Happy to see the growth!

KareFree

he doesn't have the talent or size to be special but he damn near plays perfect baseball

Athletic Alchemy

I’m feeling so good about this team, get hyped y’all

Andrew Lee

thank you and Welcome! I am a Bobby fan, however I have heard several people say he looks awful this year. I haven't watched much Bucks because its always a blowout lol so IDK bout that one

Athletic Alchemy

Huge win. They look focused but relaxed. Confident. Chemistry clicking.

Frank Ravizza

I was referring to the fact that they literally turned the lights off during his pre-game intro, but also what you said.

DW

Hey Alc, long time follower of your stuff, just recently supporting you on Patreon, keep doing what you do, your content is as consistent as is it insightful. If the Bucks blow it up what do you think about a Portis for Kuminga + Picks trade? Would add to the veteran leadership and would improve their size. Love from Spain!

VReplay

GP2 early Loon late that timeout to save a possession every thing he did worked

Athletic Alchemy

I have had no problem shittin on him in the past.. but Ive been fine with him so far, in fact encouraged

Athletic Alchemy

I was thinking before you said it in the video - is there a better #3 option than White? He seems like he is a fringe number 2 guy and yea he is getting paid but damn would every team love a D White on their squad.. He can do so much in the modern style of basketball it just opens everything else up for the other 4 on the floor. Always love winning in Boston, feels like we normally win there and then they get us on our home court.

Matt Hanna

I watched the last 3 minutes of the game pretending to clean the kitchen cuz I have ptsd from the past 2 years.....ooowee, when we won I ran back in and replayed the the whole 4th. Damn winning feels good! Looney was clutch.

Allison Hendrix

I will

Athletic Alchemy

we are so back alch, deepest team in the league???

Johnny Marko

yeah lot of wear and tear defending the best scorers for a decade and he is a heavy dude probably 220 ish at 6'4

Athletic Alchemy

Kerr was lights out last night!

DW

Wiggins is a head case I’m sorry there is something going on there. Usually that doesn’t affect defense so Atleast we have that from him. However he was ok tonight but still annoying. That blown layup and the anger from last game I started to yell at my tv 😂. .the refs let them play in the first half and then the second half they kept blowing the whistle at EVERYTHING. That’s one thing that’s got to change in modern nba is the let’s just jump into people for the foul. FIFA is such a better product for that very reason . Sorry for the rant I’m Happy for the warriors 😁

Ryan becker

Awesome to see Slomo hit 3 3s to get put us up in the 2nd.

BruceWayne

Was cool to see all the love you got on the YouTube livestream man. Hopefully you can do them more often

Drew Stanwood

Is it me or does it look like jrue lost a step

Jeffery Rosario

yessir unc, been waiting for this, game had me hyped

Brodie campbell


More Creators