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Warriors vs Wolves GM-26

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Warriors vs Wolves GM-26

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Thanks, @Shantel. Unfortunately, those are usually edited. :(

deb m.

yea, he is gone, Kerr ruins another young asset, good job

Naji Zouhari

Deep cut 😂😭

Luke Zhang

Wiggs was a demon on defence in this one. 💪

Yavor Danev

Kuminga`s IG post tho

Gsw4L

According to the NBA’s stats website, no Warrior takes more shots per game in the space between 8 and16 feet away from the hoop than Kuminga — who is making just 30.8% of the 2.5 shots he’s taking there per game.

Gsw4L

Yeah. It’s such a bully move tbh. Reckless use of the podium

yan't get right

What a cop out from Kerr. We lost 9 of 11 games mostly because of Kerrs bad rotations and our two best players not closing games. Then we get a win where the young guys played well and what does Kerr do, he basically comes out and blames them especially JK for the bad run. What a joke. There have been games this season that We won because of JK predominantly.

Sensible Gooner

But we have Kyle Anderson to take more of Dray's minutes on nights when it's clear he doesn't have it... which I and others have been saying is the obvious answer since the beginning of the season...

Neal X

I think they are on YouTube the sports Bay Area channel

Shantel

Where do you watch the interviews/press conferences? I’ve only found highly edited clips, would love to see the whole press availability.

deb m.

Lotta positive signs, and I honestly didn’t expect this without Dray. Maybe they do defer to him too much? Thanks for going shot by shot with JK after that postgame rhetoric from Steve. I didn’t notice it in-game either, and support JK getting his middie and FT% game together like no one else can on this roster. Kerr’s only coming up on 60 by the way. Did you catch him talking surfing the other day before actual questions started? Dude’s taking good care. Deep roster win - Wiggs D, Steph O/close out, TJD/Loon combine for 17 boards, Podz stat stuffer hustle, Dennis adding a missing piece that makes everyone better. Consistency of energy/effort?! Especially D/boards?!

Chip Tingle

I imagine Steph doomscrolling X to kickstart his "what they gonna say now" gene, and for one game the petty King emerged triumphant. My guy Schroeder was the X factor, and it will only get better. The vibe I'm getting around JK is "trade deadline". Go Dubs.

Michael E

Fair enough. I hardly have the inside scoop, was purely speculating.

Neal X

Watched the game after watching the postgame then Alchs breakdown and tbh, it seems like Kerr's comments were directed at JK not necessarily Podz. Which is fucked up. He's been one of the bright spots through the recent struggles. Anytime he's played over 30mins, the results are obvious

AK

Fair enough, but it was so blatant to my eyes it was hard not to feel like there's some kind of conspiracy against us with this crap...

Neal X

Exactly. And, to be fair, I think it’s super admirable that Dray has taken responsibility for the problem and done as much he has to get his shot back. For all his faults, dude really is a champion thru & thru. But, nevertheless, the situation is what it is.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

steve is such a dick

Ehren Muehlenbruch

Ejikeme: 100% I'd take it one step further - it's not just JK that doesn't fit with Dray. More than half the roster doesn't work with Dray because you can't play him with non-spacers AND you can't play him with drivers because his guy is zoned up in the paint. Lately you can't even play him with Steph because Steph is not beating traps with his bum leg. Draymond still has the occasional night where he's a game-changing defender but it's not worth having a flat tire on offense all the time. I think everyone realizes this, even Steve, but he's like an addict. The worse the Dray problem gets, the more defensive Steve gets. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

Mike Peterson

I don’t think that’s what the issue was. Listen to Alch’s YouTube breakdown of this game and he’ll get into what I’m talking about and I agree with him. JK did a lot of things right in the game, but it seems like there’s almost no room for even a couple of mistakes.

Paul Hanson

Can't have it both ways though. If it's not a "Kerr vs. kuminga" thing then its definitely a "Steph vs The Youth" thing that Kerr just becomes the spokesperson for. There's plenty of coaches who would allow a player like JK a longer leash and if Kerr is not that coach, then it's either "Steph Curry's inability to adapt and Kerr enabling it", or we're back at it being Steve's personal thing against Kuminga. Either way, the org is too focused on protecting the past. Just pick your sticking point, it's still the same big issue

yan't get right

all roads point to us empowering the youth already on our roster, reducing Steph's minutes (and increasing his longevity) and seeing what kind of team we can be with that

yan't get right

yeah and the thing to let go of is the curry-led offense. just works in our favor that we have really talented, athletic and capable young guys who have maintained promise under less than ideal development "circumstances" for several years

yan't get right

An empowered JK, Podz, & Trayce will feed families across the Bay Area for the next decade

yan't get right

Wolves GM lineup made no sense at all. The biggest problem for this team is Kerr doesn't know who and how to utilize them. Looney should be backup 5 period. TJD with Steph makes all the sense. He puts pressure on the rim, which Looney doesn't. It helps with the O.

Chaz G

Indeed, every TJD finish was a foul!

Alex Kay

Love the video highlights of Kerr not applauding JK. That’s def telling. Kerr just doesn’t like someone whose vision is to become Derozan. I think Dennis talking up the kids is about trying to be a positive in the locker room so he can get another deal. He’s outta the league if this ends badly

Gary

I saw TJD mouth, “I wanted to go up on that motherfucker” talking about Rudy 🤣 he ultimately did like the next possession I believe … first time I seen him have the emotion he did. AND… did we see a pump fake from him?! Or am I trippin? We been looking for a pump fake from TJD.. good game from that boiii

TJ Maccc

Although the scene from last night’s net fiasco looked more like what alc described 🤣

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

The Alc observation wasn’t nothing, but several people who have a more behind the scenes view have emphasized the opposite. Specifically Slater & Krysten Peek have both emphasized that JK is a very hard worker and very focussed on his game.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

Fact it is a JOKE and will never be a "PLAN" is the sad part. The guy who is "WASHED" was on the bench with an ankle last night. His defensive prowess this year reminds me of Klay's shooting prowess last year. 1 great game, 9 shitty ones.

Anthony Berry

Which leads me back to my point. Free him and let him figure it out somewhere else. I don’t see that happening in golden state under any circumstance. Sometimes you have to know when to let go.

Jalen Kennedy

I can see the thing with Dray. However, with a limited jumpshot and lackluster decision making, it’s only so far you can take that unless you are as dominant as shaq or Giannis.

Jalen Kennedy

LOL. Except, deep down, Asian parents actually like you.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

We have to focus too much on the Refs lately, I didn’t want to have to spend more time on it.

Athletic Alchemy

That's fair about Steph and Dray. They all have cost us games, including kuminga. And kuminga and steph/dray are not the same and shouldnt be treated as such. Regardless, I just don't like kuminga's game. I said I may be the only one that feels this way but I don't see him being the future of the warriors. Imo he doesn't fit and it would be better for everyone including kuminga if he were traded. If it's playing time he needs, then he needs to go to a team that is trying to tank to get the playing time. People saying it's about playing time aren't really paying attention. Even though he wasn't starting he was playing the 4th most mins. There are teams where he can go and play all the mins he wants and maybe we can get a player that is ready now. That has been the warriors problem for the last couple of seasons. Now vs later. They need to choose. if it's later then trade steph and dray.

Carla Davis

I think the problem for the FO is that it’s not about fitting JK with “the roster”. It’s about fitting him with Draymond. And it’s hard to trade away a promising 22 year old because he doesn’t fit with your 34 year old with a bad back. Like it or not, when JK has been given the car keys, he’s won ball games more often than not. The FO watches what he did to the Rockets defense and has to wonder… If it was between JK and 22-year-old Draymond, Lacob would personally drive JK all the way back to the Congo if he had to. But it’s not.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

I will definitely agree with that.

Nos Dollas

We're all just speculating at this point, we won't know what goes on behind closed doors, but if I had to guess, I think Kerr may not like Kuminga's attitude and/or work ethic, and this is just based on Alch's comments from back when he saw JK's warmup routine being very half-assed. That's not a big sample size, sure, but it does say something about him. Kerr (like any coach) likes guys who put in the work and demonstrate that professionalism.

Neal X

Better idea leave that Cesspool. Join BlueSky. Slater is on there and so are some of us here. We can build a NON-TROLL community and have honest discussions. I never joined X because of its toxicity in the 00's and today MAN.

Anthony Berry

Kind of surprised you didn't mention the reffing shenanigans, the tech on Podz, and numerous no-calls on TJD just getting absolutely grabbed and hammered on offense multiple times. Warriors bench was in an uproar.

Neal X

There I have to disagree, CP3 was a huge boost to the young guys and it's good to have another vocal leader on the team who isn't Draymond. CP3 was just small and old on the court, so he was still not a net positive in the end, but we knew that was probably going to be the case going in, it was the just the best of the bad situation called Jordan Poole. Water under the bridge at this point.

Neal X

Thanks for the shout-out Unc and for throwing my guy JK some BAIL. Kerr is impossible PODZ can do no "Wrong" and JK/Mood haven't done a positive thing for 3. 2 seasons. I used to guide young collegiate minds for over 15 years and you don't have different rules for each student it is counterproductive. And like Bruce says and I said on Discord last night that fouling drawing with those exact shots got us in the BONUS which is how we closed as you pointed out with that McDaniels foul on Steph. 4 minutes of bonus with guys trying to rob Steph and Schroder I'll take it. Got another game Monday so I can say this twice possibly beforehand, EVERYONE have a HAPPY HOLIDAY whatever one you celebrate.

Anthony Berry

Is it really controversial to say “at least look for another shot before taking arguably the worst shot in basketball (contested midrange pullup) after the first pass”? Everyone is making this a kerr vs jk thing as if any other coach wouldn’t be annoyed with 90% of their roster taking an early contested mid range? There’s very few guys in the league that would take that shot and their coach is perfectly cool with it. At this point, it feels like we’re looking for any look, comment, or vibe to confirm this kerr vs kuminga issue.

James arnoth

Yeah but at least make Steph beat you and make a play rather than let him fire away uncontested 3s, terrible gameplan. Plus there are clips in here where Naz Reid is doing the same thing so it must be schematic

Billy Roberson

Rudy has bambi legs any time he gets brought out to the perimeter so they’re basically forced to play drop. If he’s at the level of the screen, steph is either gonna reject the screen and drive into the lane, or turn the corner on him and drive into the lane.

James arnoth

I have yet to see his mistakes cost a game as much as veteran turnovers, lackadaisical defensive, and really Dray and Curry just flat out dogging it has caused this ridiculous now 3-11 down slide.

Sarcasm 360

JK needs spacing to attack the rim. But there are too many key players on the team (Dray, Loon, GP2) who provide no spacing at all. That’s the issue. When you have him in lineups with spacing - like against the Rockets - he looks unstoppable. When the middle is clogged up, he looks a lot less impressive. Yet mouth breathers on Twitter just evaluate him with no context whatsoever. “He’s inconsistent!”

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

I might be the only one that feels this way but I just don't like kuminga's game. I'm trying to like it. I'm trying to see what everyone else sees but I don't. He should have went to college for a couple of years. He's one of those players that you can use in ab argument about why players need at least 2yrs of college before coming into the league. Your not guaranteed to get a lot of time on the court to figure it out especially if your on a team that is expected to contend every year. The it's no time for him to make mistakes if those mistakes cost a game because every game counts on the west. I think we should trade him and get someone that can be more helpful now. He's not worth a max. They are keeping him for what he may become but there is no guarantee. Your argument is that he doesn't know what to do but mine is he should just play his game but I don't think he knows what his game is. And that's a big issue for me. He needs to find out what HIS game is.

Carla Davis

Idk man. The more we try to figure out the conundrum of how Kuminga fits within this roster, the more I feel they are justified in finally moving on from him. For me, he can be an empty calorie stat guy somewhere else, blossom and I wouldn’t see it as a loss because more often than not, his play style doesn’t necessarily translate into winning basketball.

Jalen Kennedy

Did the FO tell Kerr to stop fucking around and play JK for a significant period so they can figure out what they have, while Kerr doesn’t want to? It looks like it from what Kerr is saying and how he’s acting.

BruceWayne

ALC can you please post these kuminga points to Twitter? The whole fanbase is in his and podz necks, and The points you make provide excellent context

ACowNamedStan

I replayed it 3x! Like, what did I just see?? Yay, progress! 🎉

deb m.

Kerr is giving me Asian parent vibes where they want you to succeed but in their way. Not to mention a couple weeks ago they basically anoint Kuminga into the starting role and bench Draymond and now he’s not starting even when Draymond’s out. Make it make sense Steve Loving Schroder’s energy, he’s similar to Draymond but can actually break a defense and get a bucket which prob takes so much mental stress off the young guys. Podz and TJD seem to be sliding back into their natural roles. Not to mention Steph has gotta be happy to have Schroder on his side, like all those years ago when he was pushing for Avery Bradley bc Bradley always gave him hell

Luke Zhang

JK drew critical fouls and made FTs when we needed them. Crickets from Kerr.

BruceWayne

It’s because Melton played so few games and went down in the only game he had a real impact on.

BruceWayne

Trayce played excellent

Andrew Lee

Kerr is trying to maximize steph at all times…him and dray have tunnel vision…it’s the winning formula for now…jk has to take it to them and make those shots with consistency…that’s the standard,0 development…kerr going in press conferences to yell at kids is foul tho…he clearly lost them and trying to coach them via the media…

ntare rugamba

Agreed. It was actually annoying and a bit surprising tbh.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

I’m too jaded to believe in a Schroeder impact on the young guys. This has happened before with Chris Paul and even Donte. A new vet comes on board and starts talking up the young guys and getting them involved. After a while they learn the lunch room politics and that shit gets deaded.

Ejikeme Uzoigwe

Trayce did a what?!?!????

Sarcasm 360

One thing kuminga never got as a young player is the ability to make mistakes.Especially young scorers.Young steph ,klay,jp got it.Even outside the warriors.I watch ant,wagner,jaylen brown.You name it.There are stretches where they are gonna struggle. Defences are gonna key in on them etc.Taking the next is not gonna happen only in the gym.Got to get the bumps and bruises out the way.No matter what the fans and the rest of the team feels.Kerr does not believe in him

mr.bean

Well said. Do you think Steve realizes he is putting more on Steph with this mentality and messaging. I thought the goal was to lessen his load

Athletic Alchemy

🫣 I know! I had it in my notes too!

Athletic Alchemy

UNC you missed TJDs first pump fake😱

Morinho

I seen it since game 4 and 5 of the season. He doesn’t think Kuminga is a winning player

Diego

Steph works better when there’s chaos and the defense in front of him is scrambling….kuminga on the other hand has to see the defense set so he can find the weak points and angles to attack….different mentality for different positions and sizes …in my point of view, kuminga is stubborn in his ways but kerr too can’t expect him to be draymond 2.0 overnight…if you can’t find a compromise in year 4,Move him!

ntare rugamba

the kuminga and kerr thing is just weird.You have to trade him because we know kerr is not leaving.Not even becuase kuminga is bad but because they dont mix.You put him on the floor all season with players that dont want to score or shoot.of course it gonna be ugly.He is playing next gp2,dray,looney,kyle,podz without andrew and steph.

mr.bean

Been saying this, Alch. The whole situation seems to be a coach in his feelings instead of maximizing the talent he has. We've spent a minute worrying about Podz' confidence but think about Moody and JK who've had Inconsistent playtime and roles since they were drafted. We literally had Lamb and Jerome playing more than them...... it's Kerr, guys. We've racked up about 5 Kerr loses already this season with agendas and weird rotations

Anthony English

Kerr is pissing me off when it comes to Kuminga and I’m now officially on the trade Kuminga train bc Kerr has no idea how to develop stars! Kuminga is a star and if we empowered him to be him, he would add a dynamic we need on this team bad but no Kerr wants him to be like Draymond when he’s twice the scorer Draymond is. It doesn’t make any sense and I don’t want young bro to miss out on money bc he has a stubborn old coach that won’t adjust for a new star

Chris Thomas

Ngl I’m starting to feel its personal for Kerr

Athletic Alchemy

We did! Can’t believe I forgot that!!

Athletic Alchemy

I was genuinely heated seeing Kerr say what he said in a win after yanking this kid around all season on top of not having shit to say after a 2-11 skid ending in a 50 point blowout and only having “I’m not worried” as a response to an embarrassing performance

Sarcasm 360

Bench kuminga or start him either way give him consistently. Kerr just doesn’t trust him yet. Do you think ke just forgot and let go those “lost faith in Steve Kerr” comments? I think at a certain point we should just trade him because it’s looking kinda weird rn.

Diego

7:41 in the first quarter, we got our first trayce pumpfake!!

Robert

That was my thought too.. Getting Jimmy for a package centered around Dray would make sense in a lot of ways. Hence the joke in the open

Athletic Alchemy

Can’t have nice things though, Steve Kerr after all these losses, has to rely on the young guys who gave good production and after finally getting a win he chooses NOW to yell at them for “not getting g Steph the ball?” Why? Genuine admission that the lack of agenda-less basketball is a result of Steve Kerr and Draymond. What curry said after the game however runs completely counter to Kerr: “Anybody who plays with me has to play decisive and confident. You’re okay with the mistakes as long as they’re done with the mindset of being aggressive. I’m cool with that.”

Sarcasm 360

This was better. Kuminga using that deadly pump fake again, Podz sticking to the little things only, Trayce’s existence, this was good. Ngl we talking about trading Wiggs because he’s the “only big contract,” but I’m throwing Dray out, we don’t need somebody to complicate handing Steph the ball (and turning it over). Build off THIS.

Sarcasm 360

Breakaways don’t count 😁

Athletic Alchemy

That was my point in the video. Kerr is hurting him with the mixed messages

Athletic Alchemy

I luv you Alch but your sports pessimism is something I don't share with you. As long as you and I have watched ball you should know nothing is ever as good or bad as it seems. The question is if JK can be that option 1 in time for Steph to be the option 2. I'm not convinced but understand he's not been given the opportunity soo....

Nos Dollas

Still trying to fit in and need the shots to go down, but I'm glad you highlighted that clip of Schroeder with Podz & JK. Schroeder's been vocal with the young guys and they seem to respond well to it. Similar to when CP3 was here last season.

Nick Elliston

Love the energy Dennis is bringing

Mitch Coob

Right “he should be a 6th man right now” that was my point. Not that’s what we should or would do. But if we had drafted better and things had aligned properly. Bron too!

Athletic Alchemy

Haha, TJD finished with one hand on a dunk!

e40

The first thing to go as a superstar gets older is consistency. Fewer scoring outbursts and more lows. That’s been Steph’s season so far. I feel like people point to the Olympics as prove that he still has it, while conveniently forgetting that he was pretty bad until the last 3 games. I hear the argument about roster quality but I feel like LeBron, cp3 and Steph up until now have skewed our expectations for how good they can be at 37. At the very least I’m not sure that there is any trade out there that can get us over the hump. But who knows how he looks 3 weeks from now. Wouldn’t be happier to be wrong.

Ken Bradford

Minny’s defense is kinda terrible. If you watch, almost like the first 6 or 7 shots that Steph got were WIDE open because the bigs sat in a drop and left NAW and McDaniels out to dry. I don’t understand how that’s the scheme against any shooter, much less Steph Curry, if you give him clean look after clean look, of course he’s putting 30 on you

Billy Roberson

Crazy how it feels like we just got dennis for free.

Kenny Bobby

🤣🤣🤣 leave Big Momma alone Unc 😭😭😭

Dr. Sanjin

Kerr’s comments definitely sounds like someone who moves goalposts or expectations for someone they don’t like. He’s always talking about JK’s shot selection (which like you said Alch, wasn’t egregious) and doesn’t even show any excitement or joy when he scores, but only when he makes the extra pass. Honestly I thought we was over this last year but it seems Kerr just doesn’t like Kuminga as a basketball player and it feels like even as a person sometimes

Coreyy

Great points about the messaging to JK. I thought he played well within the framework of being a team player. In the press conference Steve said his young players have to play within the Steph rules paradigm-don’t take contested mid range jumpers with 14 seconds on the shot clock-pass it around like that Dennis pass to Steph for the 3 possession at the end. That’s not a good way to develop any type of options if that’s the only way to play. I understand what he’s trying to say but it’s all tied to Steph or nothing. I guess that’s why he signed a two year extension.

Paul Hanson

yessir!

Athletic Alchemy

Lets go a bit earlier today unc must've been in a good mood

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