New Videos and Credits
Added 2023-02-21 23:48:24 +0000 UTCHello Patreon supporters!
I just sent my latest video off to the editors. Normally it takes them a week or two to edit a video, but this will be my longest one ever (about SUVs and pickup trucks 😬), so it might be a bit longer. We shall see!
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
The last thing I do when I send off a video to the editors is to make the Patreon list for the credits, which is getting to be a problem, so I wanted to open it up to a discussion.
I have been doing credits at the end of my videos for several years now, and I like the idea that my Patreon supporters names are visible, but I'm running into several problems.
First, the list is so big that it's nearly unreadable in the video. And it's taking more of my editors time to compile and format it each month, too.
Second, the credits always bring problems. Sometimes people's names get left out due to glitches at Patreon or human error, and people can get upset about that.
Also, some people don't realize that the name in the credits is always your name as written in Patreon (so make sure it's how you want it!) but that sometimes ends up with people sharing their real name, that they didn't want to share. And similarly, some people sign up not realizing that their name will be in the credits, and by the time they find out, it's too late to change it! I don't like "doxxing" people!
And finally, the list is generated weeks before a video goes out, so it's guaranteed to be out of date when it launches, which always generates a few messages to me for each video release by people who joined recently and are upset that their name didn't make the "cut".
The real issue here is that by having the credits "burned in" to the video, they can't ever be changed or updated in case a mistake is made, and it's becoming quite a painful process each month as there are now hundreds of names in the credits.
I feel like something needs to change, but I'd like your opinion.
What are your thoughts on this?
I have a few ideas:
1. We could leave it as is. It's painful and time-consuming, but people like it.
2. I could host a constantly-updated list on my website (say, notjustbike.com/supporters) that I refer to in every video. (<-- my preference)
3. I could do away with credits entirely.
4. Credits could be only for Train patrons and above (doesn't really solve any problems except that they're too small)
4. Something you suggest in the comments, below!
For the record, I am not going to change anything about the credits for at least six to twelve months. This is just planning for the future.
My gut feeling is that credits will need to eventually be phased out, but I don't know when or how, so please let me know your comments!
Thanks so much for your support!
Comments
I don't support you because I want my name in the credit. That is not going to be my 15 minutes of fame. I support you because I get genuine value from your content. So feel free to cut my name at any time, even if you continue doing credits in some form. Or to piggyback on Mary Rose's idea, make it a lottery system where you randomly draw a letter (or two or three) and everyone whose name starts with that/those letter(s) makes the list for that particular video.
Jeff Kontur
2023-04-09 21:35:42 +0000 UTCI honestly just thought you selected a set number of people to list, which gets randomly generated. I didn't think everyone above a threshold made it into every video.
2023-03-18 15:44:49 +0000 UTCMake one video quarterly with everyone's name who supported you in that quarter.
2023-03-08 00:23:50 +0000 UTCI have no deep need for my name to be listed. If #2 makes you comfortable and reduces the effort needed to publish your great videos, go for it.
2023-03-03 01:07:42 +0000 UTC2 is nice but still sounds like a pain to keep accurate. On the other hand, if someone has said please don't list me or list me in this way, you do it once and hopefully it persists. 3 is fine too imho. I think removing them completel y from the videos is the right move, and as soon as possible.
2023-03-02 16:42:14 +0000 UTC2, 3, or 4 would be good. Number 1 seems a bit unsustainable 🤷🏻♂️
Mitchell Mudd
2023-02-27 23:58:32 +0000 UTCI support you for what you are doing and not for my own glorification. Hence, no need to mention me on the credit list. Or anybody else, is my opinion. Just keep up the good work!
2023-02-27 08:57:51 +0000 UTCLooking forward to the vid. Will buy a bag of chips and enjoy a break from exam studies.
Øyvind Wallentinsen
2023-02-27 06:44:52 +0000 UTC2 or 3, as people said I'm not supporting you for a credit but because I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶a̶n̶g̶e̶p̶i̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ I think what you're doing is a net positive
Leonardo Taglialegne
2023-02-26 13:29:32 +0000 UTC