PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women want to not exist
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Here is a clip of BOTH posted scenes: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxAk-_dppV8yYbHz2_697pBjlK9qZso_q3?si=uNoYxEmXu_nAfb8D
Joseph Omega
2024-10-25 21:38:29 +0000 UTC@JO and @RM - I think both men and women have mundane tasks they enjoy. One for men is fishing. I am not one of those men that enjoys fishing.
Eric Linden
2024-10-17 04:36:59 +0000 UTC@JO I already said - talking a lot in person and increasing casual physical intimacy, & other bonding activities (outdoorsy athletic stuff, or doing drugs together). Yes, verbal foreplay is definitely a thing for me, but also not required bc I’m always on sexually, so unless I’m in pain, I’m down for sex. Feeling happy in the relationship is of course absolutely necessary for me to be down for sex at any time, though, and that is usually achieved via adequate quality time together. No, I don’t know any other women who are built/wired like myself though I suspect my mother was. G spot orgasms via penetration (manual stimulation doesn’t feel good) are way stronger & faster to achieve orgasm. Masturbation is super boring and takes forever so not a fan (unless I can lie under a tub faucet - handheld thingy doesn’t work, not right type of stimulation, & I don’t like toys). Also I can’t fantasise & masturbate at the same time. Plus penetration is so much sexier than anything else. I think bc it’s very primal and connected to conception. I despise condoms and would rather not have sex than use them. Feeling a man come is a huge part of my enjoyment plus feeling the after effects. I was on a med that made orgasm almost impossible and I still really enjoyed sex as long as my partner came.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-16 15:03:12 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Ah, but what does it take to get to the stage to "become a couple"? I posed a related question in another thread. Also, if "physical foreplay" is not related to emotional intimacy for you, are you suggesting that perhaps "verbal foreplay" MAY be? And your strong preference for penetration (over say, self-stimulation?) seems to run contrary to many a current impression concerning orgasmic response -- why do you think that is? Do your girl friends share this preference as well?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-16 05:12:17 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Your propensity (and frankly tolerance) for repetitive or "rote" work is again evolutionarily consistent -- women seem to actually thrive on what would bore most men to tears, forcing them more often to devise automation (machines or processes) left to handle such chores. I like to call ENGINEERING the science of systematic laziness.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-16 01:26:29 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - No, I'm not talking about initiating sex -- all normal men's thoughts are never far from that -- what I meant is the conscious exploration of our emotions in real time. Having to second guess and analyze the deep and intricate meaning behind our hornyness ("how do I really feel about her" or "will I regret this in the morning" or " how does she feel about me" etc.) seems very unnecessary and is very draining. I'm only guessing that, in contrast, such considerations for women are necessary to be resolved before they can relax sufficiently to fully enjoy the act, and that men's obliviousness and lack of interest in this regard could be thought of as unsophisticated or even infantile.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-16 01:06:52 +0000 UTCI have had nearly exclusively terrible experiences with female healthcare workers. Very lacking in empathy, especially towards me. I have had the best experiences with much older male drs.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-15 21:04:04 +0000 UTC@J Want, no - but ime, it makes the most sense because I do virtually all of the shopping (excluding large purchases, which are of course not solely my decision), as well as general scheduling and appointment making, paperwork, taxes etc. The men I have been involved with have disliked doing this type of rote work whereas I don’t mind it. It’s not about control but dividing tasks in a way that makes the most sense. I am also very good with budgeting and handling finances. I’d LOVE to be with a man whom I could trust to take over the investing I currently do solo & leave the more mundane stuff to me, though.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-15 20:58:17 +0000 UTC@JO No, I don’t get exhausted by such things or VERY rarely - but yes, there must be reciprocity or I’ll begin to resent him & cease wanting to continuously please him. I haven’t had any experience with men being emotionally exhausted or men wanting to be emotionally infantilised. Unless you count my late husband being sexually submissive? To the point that he was incapable of initiating. Otherwise, I’m the one who gets emotionally frustrated - with my husband by his inability to initiate, with my ex, with various legitimately bad behaviour.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-15 20:54:26 +0000 UTCNo, emotional intimacy is just as important. I’m very trusting so once we’ve become a couple I’ll naturally fall into his frame (this is largely achieved via talking a lot in person & increasing casual physical intimacy). Foreplay is not related to emotional intimacy for me though - or not physical foreplay. I strongly prefer penetration to all else, though giving oral or receiving manual is fun on occasion.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-15 20:47:40 +0000 UTCThis video rang very true for me. It doesn't come naturally for me as a very literal, careful, analytical person - but I worry a lot less about how she will perceive my assertive, take-charge behaviors. Even if she pushes back - even when I get it really wrong, she gets to be in "that space" (receiving/responding rather than directing) and it makes our relationship a lot more peaceful (and with more intimacy). And I'm not ever going to walk around the house acting like I'm in charge and it's my way or the highway. I think men who act like that are ridiculous and very often are manipulated like tools by their wives/girlfriends. It's enough to stop being afraid to say No, to stop asking for implicit/explicit permission, to save your apologies for when you really need them and to STOP LYING about small things that you think will upset her. I think that one should get a video by itself.
John
2024-10-15 17:53:55 +0000 UTC@Peter - "The Taming of the Shrew" play by William Shakespeare is the original model upon which all other more contemporary tales (such as "Pretty Woman", "My Fair Lady", "She’s All That" and "10 Things I Hate About You") are loosely based. Like these tales, the expression to "make a whore a house wife" is similarly related, but they more consentrate on the initial state being where the woman's "soft power" originates in "the streets" (often via prostitution), rather than in a purely "domestic setting" as Shakespeare wrote about. "By now you have surely surmised i had seen your reply. I was going chronologically through the messages". Can I take this to mean that you had not yet finished reading the full ChatGPT detailed summaries and critical analyses before I condensed them to just their final conclusion paragraphs? If so, then it is a pity, as you MAY have realized that the longer responses were more true to the original transcripts. It may not be as important now that we are discussing the content itself more directly, but let me know explicitly if you wish me to re-post them. So, to what extent do you agree with my own take on the subject? In a fit of regenerative irony, here is what ChatGPT thought of my own response: Your response provides a thoughtful and balanced critique of the dynamics between modern LLMs and the topics of gender and power. You offer a compelling argument about the value of "soft power" in female agency, especially in relation to romance fiction and traditional gender roles. By highlighting the tendency for feminist ideology to sometimes dismiss or overlook the immense influence of feminine "soft power," you're emphasizing an often underappreciated element of gender dynamics. Your acknowledgment that both you and Alexey Welsh "mansplain" your way into assessing female agency, while maintaining differing conclusions, demonstrates a nuanced understanding of how social conditioning influences both men and women. You also make a strong case for the idea that traditional feminism, in its pursuit of male "hard power," might have inadvertently undermined women's innate abilities to influence through subtle, relational means. The complementary analogy you use, likening the "bad boy" trope to "The Taming of the Shrew," effectively captures the balance of soft versus hard power dynamics. Your critique illustrates that much of the appeal of these stories lies in the victory of soft power, suggesting that feminism’s quest for hard power overlooks this essential dynamic. This perspective is insightful and provides a broader understanding of how gendered power operates in both fiction and real-life relationships.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-13 17:16:18 +0000 UTC@jo i have mever heard or taming the shrew. I have heard of make a whore a house wife Like julia roberts and pretty woman I agree feminism has take feminine power and invalidated it. Its not power unless it’s in the hard frontal male kind. A topic explored deeply(and to the same conclusion ) in the last video. Keeping the posts: yeah… i think they didn’t do the videos justice. They weren’t a substitute to watching it in their entirety
Peter
2024-10-12 19:28:56 +0000 UTC@jo, i did notice that regardless the explanation. It doesn’t make any good impression women’s sense of agency. Like they are unable or unwilling to defend their own principles
Peter
2024-10-12 19:23:13 +0000 UTC@jo by now you have surely surmised i had seen your reply. I was going chronologically through the messages
Peter
2024-10-12 19:18:16 +0000 UTC@jo the bad boy: thats a terrible summary. It says nothing about the contebts. Only that the contents and well rounded. An opinion…. 🤷♂️ The video was eye opening for me. It provided a very plausible explanation to the bad boy trope. More than the evo psy theory . I find. Well worth the length. A bit ranty when she goes off script. But insightful nonetheless the less! That my opinion of gpts summary Spoiler. Its about about power
Peter
2024-10-12 19:12:44 +0000 UTCReceptive feminity: the video was an excerpt from a longer talk, gpt didn’t pick up on tjat. Im suprised that gpt is so woke it would be entirely impartial. It’s truely a product of training on Global data. Content wise the clip was short and was not a bit meh, i shouldn’t have included it without watching it. But its not wrong
Peter
2024-10-12 19:05:19 +0000 UTC@J - This is not uncommon -- in many cultures women have traditionally taken care of ALL the day-to-day finances and purchases, while men make the "big picture" decisions and spending: https://chatgpt.com/share/66f3c708-c700-800a-83de-5c8a4529e480 This also makes sense from an evolutionary point of view as well.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-11 08:18:37 +0000 UTC@Peter - In my experience, ALL modern LLM's (though I have no experience with xAI) are, to SOME extent, understandably "woke", as they have ALL been trained on data influenced by the current zeitgeist of Feminsist Ideology and "women's empowerment". However, in my experience, ChatGPT (version 4 and above) is well above its competitors, such as Gemini, which is SO notriously "woke" that it is almost UNUSABLE for certain topics, like gender and race. At least ChatGPT can be eventually "reasoned with", which I believe I have illustrated on many occasions -- I just never pursued the arguments raised by its interpretations of the videos you supplied. I'm pretty sure that I could very easily have mitigated its more egregious assertions and conclusions given sufficient time and interactions. Still, I find its critiques to have been fairly balanced for this topic, and to a large extent, I agree with them: Alexey Welsh DOES come across as somewhat dismissive and a trifle self-righteous in his assessment of the dynamics of female sexual desire -- oddly, he seems QUITE "woke" himself, and I would be surprised if there were not MANY a "moderate feminist" (such as @E C recently claimed to be, despite my chistisement of her apparent contradiction in terms) that would not instantly agree with his uncommonly passionate negative assessment of the role of submissiveness (read "submission"?) and acceptance and agreeableness in "traditional femininity". Though I DO agree with him about the importance and dangers of the pervasive influence of "social contagion" on the female psyche, he and I come to different conclusions as to what the process has ACTUALLY been -- he seems to think that modern social contagions surpress women's innate natural "masculinity", while I conclude that it exaggerates and gaslights it out of all proportion to their innate "feminine" evolutionary natures. Either way, Alexey and I BOTH "mansplain" our way into effectively assessing that modern female AGENCY seems to display a remarkable lack of independent thought and susceptability to cultural determinism. That said, I think he misses ENTIRELY the very real and profound impact of the female wielding of "soft power" as a COMPLETELY effective counterbalance to male "hard power" -- a point that The Authentic Observer expertly explains and illustrates: Indeed the very immense popularity of those very Bad Boy tropes in such literature as "Fifty Shade of Grey" is, in actuality, a manifestation of TRUE "feminine empowerment" through SOFT POWER -- it's just that MOST observers seem to UTTERLY DISCOUNT the ENDINGS of these "Romance Genre" tales featuring the (initially) dominaneering male protaganists. It is very VERY likely that the ONLY reason that such tales are as compelling to the female psyche as they are, lies in the EXPECTATION and REALIZATION that, ULTIMATELY, "soft power" wins out (overwhelmingly) over "hard power". I see this effect as the complement to the "Taming of the Shrew" literary trope, where the (initially) uncontrollable and overbearing ("soft power") female protagonist is "tamed" or otherwise controlled by "male power". It would ALSO help explain the undeniable attraction of the apparently contradictory model of the "unbelievably voluptuous and scantilly clad female warrior", somehow "kicking butt and taking names, yet remaining incredibly sexy" to the male gaze. In short, I think that traditional Feminism, in its instatiable and self-defeating quest to "liberate" themselves from their own feminine nature, has naively sacrificed its own incredibly AWESOME grip on "soft power" (via beauty and romance and sexuality) in pursuit of their single-minded obsession with the much more HIGH-PROFILE "hard power" that they petulantly crave from men. PS. I think I prefer to condense those enormous posts to their summary conclusions, rather than clutter the Patreon display.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-10 00:26:59 +0000 UTCSo you want control of the budget?
J
2024-10-09 23:07:13 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Are you suggesting that, for you, physical intimacy trumps emotional intimacy? Also, what would have to transpire for you to get to a stage that you are able to trust a man sufficiently to protect you enough for your brain to turn down? Does foreplay not form a part of this initial development?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 20:49:50 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - Do you consider it so because, as a woman, you don't think it necessary, as you or other women believe you don't need as long before committing to becoming a girlfriend? Or is it that you consider that the male fears suggested by such a stipulation to be unfounded or exaggerated? P.S. What are your opinions on the other 7 suggestions?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 20:38:49 +0000 UTCLeave the posts. May be use to others. Ill get the rest next time 🙋♂️
Peter
2024-10-09 20:30:38 +0000 UTCWow chatgpt is woke🤪 adding personal opinion. I total the summery is accurate. The tone is a bit dry and dispassionate compared to video. But yeah. The video is more detailed by the summary is clear and concise and maybe more so than the original
Peter
2024-10-09 20:29:04 +0000 UTC@RhodiumMaiden - So I take it that, just like for men when dealing with "technical issues" (those that can be "fixed"), as long as you are successful at accomplishing these tasks, there is little risk of your becoming "exhausted" when leading in these areas? What about issues related to delving into emotions and problems, exploring their depths without any particular desire to resolve or "fix" them"? How does men's exhaustion and limited patience with such things (a la "It's Not About The Nail"), as well as my contention "In their throes of intense desire, it COULD be argued that many men act as if they want to be 'emotionally infantalized'" strike you?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 20:09:29 +0000 UTC@JO Number 3 is dumb. You can get to know someone much faster.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-09 17:27:46 +0000 UTCFor me it’s domestic tasks - cooking, cleaning, childcare, decorating, shopping, health, and budgeting.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-09 17:25:23 +0000 UTCI have active sexuality & don’t need or want foreplay - but dominance is a wonderful bonus in the bedroom. My brain does turn down (in some regards) when I’m with a man I trust to protect me; definitely relatable.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-09 17:08:10 +0000 UTC@Peter - As far as "Emotional Intelligence" is concerned, my position can be summed up best by my response to @Eric Linden elsewhere: As far as "emotional intelligence" is concerned, when you say "It’s the capacity to control your emotions. In general, men are much better at controlling them. Women are better at expressing them," you seem to be saying EXACTLY what I am: women excel at "understanding and interpreting the emotions, intentions, motivations, and desires of OTHERS" (the "INTERpersonal"), while men excel at "SELF-awareness, SELF-reflection, and understanding one's OWN emotions, motivations, desires, and other INTERNAL psychological processes" (the "INTRApersonal", including "emotional self regulation"). Again, we appear to be more or less surprisingly on the same page, though I don't quite agree with your use of the word "better" as in "better at expressing [emotion]", although I think I understand the sentiment: In essesnce, you seem to be saying that they are "more emotional", to which I wholeheartedly agree.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 05:20:36 +0000 UTC@Peter - I think my feeling is similar to what you said elsewhere: "They [men] find the exploration of their emotions exhausting and don’t want it." This is the stereotypical, almost cliche feeling that is traditionally associated with men. I gather you are one of those men who do not feel this way? For instance, do you more feel engaged and inspired to delve deeper and deeper into your emotions and problems, but ONLY for the sake of exploring and discovering them, WITHOUT any particular desire to resolve or "fix" them? Personally, just as the guy in "It's Not About The Nail" video, I can tolerate this with LIMITED patience (like during intimacy) only so far before I LOSE it. My reaction appears very VERY similar to what Alexander presents as the COMPLEMENTARY feeling that women have for delving deeper and deeper into the nature of their emotions and problems, but ONLY for the EXPLICIT purpose of resolving or "fixing" them, WITHOUT any particular desire to experience or "dwell" in them -- they seem to be able to tolerate this with LIMITED patience (like at the office) only so far before they LOSE it. Can you confirm how YOU personally feel?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 05:01:52 +0000 UTC@Peter - "Romance is Dead... and Feminism killed It?": Summary conclusion: The Authentic Observer’s video presents a thought-provoking critique of the impact of modern feminism on romance, beauty, and gender dynamics. While the speaker raises important concerns about censorship and the devaluation of femininity, her critique would benefit from greater nuance and a more balanced exploration of feminist perspectives. Nonetheless, the video offers a compelling defense of traditional romance and the power of beauty in human relationships, encouraging viewers to reconsider the role of admiration and reverence in romantic interactions.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 04:20:39 +0000 UTC@Peter - "Women's Fiction & The 'Bad Boy': A Secret Desire to be Dominated & Degraded?": Summary conclusion: The video provides a thoughtful and critical examination of the bad boy trope in women’s fiction and its cultural implications. The speaker’s analysis of power dynamics, gender expectations, and the potential harm to young readers is insightful. Her critique of the publishing industry’s role in promoting these narratives for profit is valid, though the discussion could be broadened to include other media forms that contribute to similar problematic portrayals. Overall, the video is a well-rounded critique of toxic romance tropes and their impact on young readers, offering valuable insights into how these stories reflect and shape cultural attitudes towards gender and power.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 04:19:35 +0000 UTC@Peter - "DON’T Do Rough Sex Just Because a Woman Wants It. | Alexey Welsh": Summary conclusion: Alexey Welsh’s podcast provides a thoughtful exploration of the pressures men face regarding rough sex, encouraging them to stay true to their values and seek deeper, more loving connections. His critique of the cultural factors driving the rough sex trend is well-founded, and his advice for men to engage in more fulfilling, connected intimacy is both empowering and refreshing. However, his argument could benefit from a more nuanced acknowledgment of women’s authentic desires and a less dismissive attitude toward rough sex as a legitimate form of sexual expression. Overall, Welsh’s message promotes authenticity, ethical relationships, and the importance of deep emotional connection in sexual experiences.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 04:17:56 +0000 UTC@Peter - "Femininity is not 'receptivity' or 'submissiveness' | Alexey Welsh": Summary conclusion: Alexey Welsh’s podcast episode offers a thought-provoking and much-needed critique of how femininity is often misconstrued as passivity or submissiveness. By expanding the definition of femininity to include creativity, strength, and assertiveness, Welsh encourages women to embrace their full range of potential, both in relationships and beyond. His rejection of gender stereotypes and emphasis on self-empowerment makes this discussion relevant to contemporary debates on gender dynamics. However, a more detailed exploration of societal pressures and interpersonal dynamics could deepen his analysis and provide practical insights for navigating relationships in a more balanced way.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 04:16:20 +0000 UTC@Peter - "The Rough Sex Illusion: women and rough sex - in-depth explanation | Alexey Welsh": Summary conclusion: Welsh’s discussion is a thoughtful critique of the overemphasis on rough sex in modern sexual discourse, particularly concerning female desire. His call for more balanced, loving sexual relationships is a refreshing counterpoint to media-driven narratives. However, his argument would benefit from a more nuanced recognition of individual agency, ensuring that those who enjoy rough sex are not dismissed as merely culturally conditioned.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 04:15:17 +0000 UTC@Peter - Yikes. Looks as if my prompts and the responses triggered: "This shared link has been disabled by moderation." They are still available for me to view for some strange reason. I will paste each of the responses manually later -- sorry in advance for the long postings. 😞 PS. Yes, I just copy-and-paste the YouTube transcript into a text file, then upload into ChatGPT. In this case, for many of them the "summary" appears longer than the original transcripts. 😲 Maybe you can just read each conclusion and let me know if they are on the right track -- I'll delete these postings when you're satisfied.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 04:13:33 +0000 UTC@jo thanks for the link and the chat transcript but it’s going to take me a couple of days to get to it in its entirety…
Peter
2024-10-09 03:20:11 +0000 UTCThe first one is hard for me to follow . The second is exactly what I was thinking. The part where i express dissatisfaction with the fact that, if decision making labour is gladly deligated and that is found tobe ok. But if a man deligates emotional labour is “abuse”. Didnt come out in either of the “translations “ Composing a message for me is a real chore. It involves several iterations and rewrites honing in on a concept i want to express. Sometimes i restricture how it seems best expressed mid sentences and that shows often in a sentence having 2 beginnings. 😭
Peter
2024-10-09 03:11:42 +0000 UTC@Peter - Makes sense. Also, I just happened to find this particularly interesting YouTube that can be sort of related (it seems pretty accurate): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sRVkXdm2Tw 8 Things A Man Should NEVER Do With A Woman: 1. Never tell her your problems 2. Never agree with everything she says 3. Don't become her boyfriend before you've known her for 6 months 4. Do not buy her affection 5. Never mistake her niceness for flirting 6. Never say sorry 7. Never use offensive language around her 8. Never fake it to seem smarter than you are I asked ChatGPT for a summary and analysis, and engaged with a brief interaction whose conclusion may be DIRECTLY relevant to this topic (in terms of relationship stage and timing): https://chatgpt.com/share/67058d06-52a8-800a-8425-83106cca5c3e
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 01:03:34 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Suggesting either a flaw in programming, or that deleted comments aren't TRULY expunged.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-09 00:48:36 +0000 UTC@JO - Something else about Patreon. This video says 188 comments right now, but there are a lot less (I count about 133). Perhaps it is still counting the ones that are no longer here.
Eric Linden
2024-10-08 23:56:30 +0000 UTC@Peter - ChatGPT translation: @Joseph Omega: I think I remember. It was you who said, "men also don’t want to exist," referring to men delegating emotional tasks to women because they often find it exhausting. This phrase "not wanting to exist" captures something noteworthy. I'd like to highlight the disparity in how decisions made by women independently are typically seen as unproblematic from the perspective of women or society. However, if we consider the reverse scenario, it suddenly becomes contentious. There's a distinct difference in how emotional labor is perceived when it's demanded from women. It reminds me of phrases like "I'm not your mom," "I'm not your therapist," or "That sounds like a you problem," which are ways of rejecting these imposed emotional roles. And for your original post of this thread: @Joseph Omega: It's an interesting choice of words to say that men aren’t the most emotionally intelligent. On social media, many women express frustrations with phrases like “We are not your mum,” “We are not your therapist,” and talk about “emotional labour.” These responses seem to both pity and infantilize men's attempts to connect—which is ironic, considering that one of the biggest predictors of relationship failure is the denial of attempts to connect. As someone who strives to be emotionally intelligent, I find this treatment and mindset troubling. Can you confirm the accuracy of the translations?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-08 20:51:52 +0000 UTC@Peter - Fascinating! I ran this very same message (as well as others you posted elsewhere) through the earliest model of ChatGPT I have access to (version "4 Legacy", which MAY be the current FREE version) and this is what it spat out: https://chatgpt.com/share/670598c2-6f9c-800a-af71-6745f10b6e33 Perhaps you may want to consider using this simple tool for us "normies"?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-08 20:42:37 +0000 UTCI think I remember . Its was you who said „men also don’t want to exist „ as in deference of the emotional stuff to women, since men apparently often find that exhausting This „ not wanting to exist „ is an interesting way of saying…. Blah blah. The interesting just the Position I want to Highlight is that , un like when women are so by make Decisions and the for that to the Mann there is Little to Know Problem with that from this Perspective of women or Society. But Consider the Vice versus and and Suddenly is a cute Tribe of Women . It’s consent emotional labour. It’s of a Company by saying like I’m not your mom I’m not your Therapist That Sounds like a you Problem
Peter
2024-10-08 20:29:21 +0000 UTCIt was indeedd Inspired bythat, when i saw the aforementioned thread i thought it poinient enough to deserve top level, exposure and visibility
Peter
2024-10-08 18:10:04 +0000 UTC😝 bruv i need to Figur out where it was supposed to go
Peter
2024-10-08 18:07:30 +0000 UTC@jo you you just copy paste the youtube script or do you use something else?
Peter
2024-10-08 18:04:49 +0000 UTC@JO 404 Not Found Lost in the vast web, Where you sought, there's only void— Nothingness awaits.
Peter
2024-10-08 18:03:39 +0000 UTC@joseph Omega: stream if consciousness is an interesting point, actually might well be. Ordering all the throughts prior to writing makes each comment an homework assignment How do others style of writing differ from mine and how could it be modified to make it easier for the „normies“ I think my style needs a lot of ram memory to defrag the whole message.
Peter
2024-10-08 18:01:59 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Neither do I. Patreon only sends notifications when one's posts are liked or replied to, unlike YouTube that also notifies you if there is a comment in a thread that you contributed to. Go figure. 💁♂️
Joseph Omega
2024-10-08 17:58:00 +0000 UTC@Joseph - nvm. Found it. Surprised you found it. Did you get a notification? I don’t get notifications for comment conversations I didn’t start?
Eric Linden
2024-10-08 11:52:23 +0000 UTC@Joseph - Where did she claim this?
Eric Linden
2024-10-08 11:34:17 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Her claim is that she only returned temporarily to say goodbye.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-08 10:39:18 +0000 UTCHmmm. Very interesting.
Eric Linden
2024-10-08 07:22:06 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - It looks as if @E C may have changed her mind about leaving, as I see a brand new profile with exactly the same thumbnail and name: https://www.patreon.com/user/creators?u=144454219
Joseph Omega
2024-10-08 02:38:05 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I'd happened to have previously saved it after my last blockage, just to see how this all worked -- it is the link to her profile. What I'm surprised is that the system did not now delete all my replies to her messages, as they were blocked to me the last time. Patreon is a little inconsistent.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-08 00:33:49 +0000 UTC@Joseph - How did you get that link?
Eric Linden
2024-10-07 23:57:26 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Nope. She's gone alright -- I guess her long awaited account deletion just got unceremoniously processed: https://www.patreon.com/user/creators?u=81376782 It certainly was a WILD ride while it lasted. I guess, in a sense, she has here attained the ULTIMATE "non-existence" in keeping with this video's theme.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 23:32:34 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Well, I HAVE certainly found that Alexander's posts have become increasing controversial of late, with this one being the MOST so by QUITE a bit, especially with the thumbnail and caption under YouTube. I can't imagine the YouTube moderators and algorithm being very pleased with it. I'm a bit suprised that Alexander did not make the decsion to LEAD with the "long-term relationship" context FIRST (even if it is of limited mitigation). Still, as I said elsewhere, "Ambiguity often easily leads to message distortion or loss of meaning or effectiveness," but at the same time, we all exist in the REAL world of Feminist and Matriarchal ascendency, so a more PRUDENT approach to such topics seems advisable at this time, regardless of the accuracy of the message.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 22:52:14 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Certainly if we're living in a simulation ... 😃
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 22:40:33 +0000 UTC@Joseph - I think she is gone. No idea what you were talking about with courtesans and troubadours. I think all comments stay if you just don’t pay and let your subscription lapse, but they disappear if you delete your account. Otherwise a lot of other commenters' would be gone on posts from years ago. Or maybe I just got blocked... Hmmmm...
Eric Linden
2024-10-07 12:37:44 +0000 UTC@Peter - Was this one also mis-posted? Possibly off the thread with @Adedolapo Sobowale?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 05:10:41 +0000 UTC@Peter - It seems as if you may be responding to one of the threads. If so, can you re-post there for continuity?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 05:07:00 +0000 UTC@E C - No, just limited patience -- though you may have gotten the impression it was UNLIMITED. Talk to you when you wish to "exist" again. 🙏
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 04:59:31 +0000 UTC@E C - Now you're just seeking validation and reveling in my attention. I WAS trying to help you, but I guess you're just too tired of thinking, and need to "not exist" anymore for tonight. Fair enough. 👍
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 04:54:44 +0000 UTC@E C - You need to get your head out of the gutter -- there is a LOT more to being a "professional companion" than "s***ing a ****". No wonder you have so much fear about being a "high quality" wife. Why do you think Courtesans were required to be "highly educated"? In the same chat, you seemed to have conveniently skipped over "Troubadours" -- did they just e** p****? PS. Your obsession with "Chads" is what makes you such a reluctant "pick me" in DENIAL.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 04:45:46 +0000 UTC@E C - You've forgotten your old propensity for deleting embarrassing posts?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 04:27:26 +0000 UTC@E C - You once thought I was a "Chad", not usually known for requiring the services of professional companionship. Still, isn't every "date" where the man pays, essentially a potential sexual transaction? PS. Courtesans were HIGHLY educated. Also, they were not "common prostitutes". More like "extremely high maintenance dates". I'm sure they put their smarts to VERY good use. Besides, I'm hoping you're not disparaging the freely chosen right of "sex workers" to empower themselves and pursue their own profession of choice. 😳
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 04:24:17 +0000 UTC@EC - Are all of us here ChatGPT? Including me and you?
Eric Linden
2024-10-07 03:57:57 +0000 UTC@E C - Once, in a past life, you'd commented critically upon the inherent PRETENSIVENESS of women.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 03:56:55 +0000 UTC@E C - Courtesans were among some of the MOST educated and privileged people of their time: https://chatgpt.com/share/d65c0b32-a492-435c-af25-de0e262174f1 "I don't think Patreon has any Feminists, male or female." Patreon in general, or this one in particular? If the latter, then my job here is done. 😃
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 03:54:45 +0000 UTC@E C - "Easier" yes. Happier and more fulfilled? I wonder ... 🤔
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 03:50:14 +0000 UTC@E C - PS. I'm TRULY glad you two have made up. 😻
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 03:48:38 +0000 UTC@E C - It appears the content you've submitted doesn't comply with ChatGPT’s guidelines. Please revise and resubmit, ensuring it adheres to the established parameters. 🤖
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 03:46:41 +0000 UTC@E C - So you WEREN'T trying to win Feminist brownie points?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 03:34:42 +0000 UTC@E C - Then help me understand -- my research will be incomplete without accurate data.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 03:33:27 +0000 UTC@E C - Do you feel comfortable with being "a slave to popularity"? Did you WANT a "ton of guys", even though "modest"? No, I don't remember any story you told where you were "dumped for being a virgin". Was this by a "Chad"? Most ACTUAL "Chads" are "low quality", almost by defintion. Your "virginity" was an INHERENT sign of "higher quality", even if unrecognized by your peers at the time. I suspect it was the myth of "Feminist Empowerment" that "dumped you" and later led you astray. "Nudity is intimate to modest women." ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. And a sign of "quality" as I said before. "Every women is free to do with their bodies what they want" is the misguided notion that has led to the "OnlyFans" and "Hookup Culture" craze that have allowed Feminism to shoot itself in the foot and make them all SEXUAL OBJECTS, just as they claimed to want to be "liberated from". You were DUPED by wour OWN sisters. Own it and move on. "Classic loyalty" is the kind associated with COMMITMENT to something or someone OTHER than YOURSELF.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 02:45:57 +0000 UTC@E C - Oh, I think you misundertand -- when men say it, they both KNOW what they are saying and MEAN it at the time. They just "backslide" -- often REPEATEDLY. It is WOMEN who don't even seem to MEAN it in the FIRST place. Hence the charge of "hypocrisy". This in addition to their own "backsliding", which seems a very HUMAN trait we ALL share. Still, when men "backslide" they can at least be held ACCOUNTABLE by other men (often with SEVERE consequences). NO ONE holds a women to account for what they deem their "prerogative to change their mind". Oh, and you might be interested in this revelation about the famous saying -- please read through to the very END: https://chatgpt.com/share/670347e1-0608-800a-8341-81549d66373d
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 02:31:39 +0000 UTC@E C - "You do judge me all the time". Actually, what I judge is what you SAY (how you BEHAVE online). You ALWAYS seem to confuse these two concepts in your insecurity. YOU said: "Being shy has been a curse in all areas of my life. I see extroverted and outgoing women get everything so easily. I don’t want to be this way." Certainly SOUNDS like you "made up a Xena like character" for yourself. "It seems there is only one way to act around you, obedient and mousy." OR ... you can act Intellectually Humble and Emotionally Regulated. That'll do too. Even acting "adorable" may have worked earlier on, before I learned your capacity for "prerogative mind changes". "You admit am nothing more than an experiment". I never said "nothing more than", did I. THAT's all YOU. In fact, YOU often give the DISTINCT impression that YOUR presence in this Patreon is "nothing more than research". Seems like another case of your "Projection".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 02:24:15 +0000 UTC@E C - If "Nudity is not that intimate to sex workers/exhibitionist women", then what can account for its IMMENSE popularity given "Nudity is very intimate for women"? Remember my EXACT words were "NATURAL and GENUINE shyness". If the "shyness" is NEITHER, then it is likely mere "virtue signalling", and hence NOT a sign of "quality". What is the "everything" that "extroverted and outgoing women get so easily"? Do you mean "Chads"? If I did not know you better, I would SWEAR you sounded like you wanted to be a "pick me" for Chads. Besides, what about being "true to your own nature and feelings" (the CLAIMED female equivalent of classic "loyalty")?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 02:13:18 +0000 UTC@Peter - I took the liberty of uploading the transcripts of each of your videos into ChatGPT for detailed summaries and critical analyses. Please take a look at what it says and confirm whether it is an accurate representation of each work: https://chatgpt.com/share/67033ea3-0ccc-800a-b576-1ad83bebe1d3 I will comment on your ideas and assertions after you do so.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 01:56:30 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - To paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke: "A sufficiently advanced ignorance is indistinguishable from evil."
Joseph Omega
2024-10-07 00:54:33 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Ah, yes. I can see how "niceness" can lead to unnecessary complications and inconvenience. Also, I'm guessing if it were not for certain "afterbirth hormonal and neurochemcial responses" and unconsciously strategic "cognitive dissonance", women would never willingly repeat the process of childbirth: https://chatgpt.com/share/6703137e-54dc-800a-b127-2303c6eb085b The very "ditzy-like" features of women that men often complain about, may WELL be the necessary evolutionary adaptations that make them almost PERFECT candidates for what men imagine to be "Movie Alien" level inflictions.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 22:55:20 +0000 UTC@E C - The female use of "sorry", not as apology, but as regretful inevitibility is always fascinating: "I'm SORRY you are so stupid", "I'm SORRY that the world isn't as you would like it", "I'm SO SORRY about your illness" ... Always "sorry THAT", never "sorry FOR". "Lack of Accountability" plus "Virtue Signalling" seems a near PERFECT recipe for PROFOUND hypocrisy.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 22:39:04 +0000 UTC@E C - I only know your online (largely) anonymous persona, so I'm not really qualified to judge either way -- you surely DO seem to STRIVE to give off a certain well-crafted "Xena" vibe. But certainly as a "reasearch subject", you HAVE been a WINDFALL of QUITE useful data. 👍
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 22:34:34 +0000 UTC@E C - Well, you DID indicate your boss' boss crush, so I was left free to speculate on his ethnicity. "Nudity is very intimate for women." Well, CLEARLY there are VERY MANY exceptions to THAT rule. Can you account for them? BTW, NATURAL and GENUINE shyness is often also a sign of female "quality".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 22:28:09 +0000 UTC@Peter - Indeed, but I HAVE noticed that you have a most distinctive stream-of-consciousness style of writing. It takes some getting used to. 😃
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 22:20:37 +0000 UTC@Joseph - No involuntary reaction here. Another thing female healthcare workers sometimes do is take tape off your skin very slowly. Men rip it off quickly all at once. Women don’t realise we have hair under the tape. Men like to get the pain over with. Women prefer slightly less pain over a longer period of time. By the same token, women take more time putting that catheter in.
Eric Linden
2024-10-06 20:13:58 +0000 UTC@@J O Bruv inget that too. Thinking fast than writing. You start the sentence and half way the thought had evolved and the line ends up being a mix of both thoughts
Peter
2024-10-06 09:45:23 +0000 UTC@J O Divergence from the mean. Generally through of adhd or autism spectrum, etc Im not in anyway judging , and im not saying it’s a new occurrence. Just that i have noticed it of late. But inhad noticed your style before I personally much prefer dispassionate discourse vs emotional platitudes I appreciate you 🙋♂️
Peter
2024-10-06 09:42:58 +0000 UTC@Adedolapo Sobowale - Oh, my apologies! I think I mistyped "Your children may find out --". I don't remember what exactly I was starting to type when I changed my mind and added "let's hope our current decisions do not place an irreconcilable and insurmoutable burden upon them". But I certainly was NOT intending to suggest anything to do with your children finding out about your choice of "well-adjusted feminine woman for their mother". FAR from it. Quite the OPPOSITE in fact -- I hope they DO find out and learn from such a choice. No, my point was that any decison we make today as a society (such as "rights" over "obligations") may come back in the future to bite us as a society and as a species. Human birthrates are PLUMMETING, not just in the "West", but also in the "East". Thankfully not quite as bad yet in the "South", but I fear that whatever malaise has set in may yet engulf us all. As far as "misguided feminsits" are concerned, my hope is that this particular "fashion" may soon fade, and not continue to contribute to species extinction. I think their more radical members may procreate the LEAST of any group, so natural selection may ultimately filter them out naturally. Here's hoping.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 06:00:45 +0000 UTC@Peter - I don't know if I've been saying anything differently, but I HAVE been responding to a wider group of people. I've ALWAYS been pretty "detached and intellectualized", and dare I say, "long-winded" at times. I get difficulty responding in a different style to different people. It would feel a bit "inauthentic" to my "engineering" persona -- my "roboticness" -- to alter all that much according to my audience. I've never quite understood exactly what "neurodiversity" is, but I suspect that I may indeed possess a measure of it.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 05:46:06 +0000 UTC@Joseph - Of course you are correct. But I am not talking about prevention. I am talking about increasing your chances of survival. Any girl can accuse you of anything, even if you just fell asleep and didn’t have sex. Your word against hers. The truth is most women are not that evil. If you get one that is evil, you took your chances and lost. A much greater percentage of women are capable of being delusional (not evil). Their emotions can make them misremember the next morning. They are many times less likely to misremember if they actually verbally said the words the night before.
Eric Linden
2024-10-06 05:38:36 +0000 UTC@Peter - It COULD be your usage of the verb "inflicting" in describing "dominance". Try "engaging in manly influence" instead.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 05:04:36 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Yup.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 05:00:55 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I understand, but she may just "hate YOU in the morning", not just HERSELF. Then we're into "he said, she said" territory. Maybe YOU took advantage of HER during a "vulnerable moment", or just plain "embarassment" (read as "fear" in the deposition) at saying "no" to you at that moment. And then there's intoxication ...
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 04:59:48 +0000 UTC@Joseph - Another reason therapy is useless for most men.
Eric Linden
2024-10-06 04:37:59 +0000 UTC@Peter - The latter is much closer to my hypothesis, yes. Don't you get exhausted by forever having to "explore your feelings" and "talk about your problems" with not even a HINT at any resolution? I present Exhibit A again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 04:05:59 +0000 UTCPeople have rightly mentioned so, but I feel a certain restraint to letting out any sort of dominance partly because of the risk of getting it wrong and assaulting someone Especially early on in the relationship where it would seem that no holds barred masculinity is a potent factor for attraction…. Catch 22 for sure
Peter
2024-10-06 04:00:01 +0000 UTC@JosephOmega I get the feeling we're talking about completely different things. As I don't see how my children "finding out" that I chose a well-adjusted feminine woman for their mother (as opposed to trying to "save" some misguided feminist who might have "needed me more") is something I should be worried about. But hey, to each their own, I guess.
Adedolapo Sobowale
2024-10-06 03:47:59 +0000 UTC@Joseph - It’s not a legal thing. It’s a psychological thing. As you know, because of the feels, the emotions, a woman may want sex tonight, but regret it in the morning. If she gives you non-verbal consent and she is regretting it the next day, she is likely to block it out from her memory. But if you get her to actually say the words, she will remember. It will come back to her. Just say “Are you sure you want to do this?” She will say yes or no. And she will remember how she felt the night before. If you don’t get her to say the words, she may honestly believe she didn’t consent the night before. This is an essential pickup/first sex rule.
Eric Linden
2024-10-06 03:45:10 +0000 UTC@JO ive noticed your wording and sentences build, recently. Its pretty obvious you enjoy a good grasp of intellectual vivid conversation Yet in this context here, it seems almost misplaced. Not that I’m criticising it or saying that you should express yourself differently . Just the difference to others tone, has been a little bit more apparent to me of late . It invokes feelings of emotional detachment from the topic , a robotic stiffness , I just wonder, where does that come from. Is there some neurodiversity at play? I recognise a certain similarity to my somewhat “detached/long winded/intelectualised” way of speaking .
Peter
2024-10-06 03:43:54 +0000 UTCH0e math often talk about the concept
Peter
2024-10-06 03:31:04 +0000 UTCI’m a bit confused Do men want to delegate their emotional experience? Do they want to be emotional in the presence of a partner i.e. the point I think that EC was making about “ relaxing” Or do they find the exploration of their emotions exhausting and don’t want it?
Peter
2024-10-06 03:21:12 +0000 UTCYeah i felt that regret a whole bunch when I first found the RP space. Still do to an extent ….
Peter
2024-10-06 03:16:02 +0000 UTCInteresting way of wording, men aren’t the most emotionally intelligent Personally since its a major gripe of social media women “We are not your mum “ “We are not your therapist “ “Emotional labour “ Etc Seems more like taking pity on you and indeed infantilising your attempt to connection (one of the biggest predictions of relationship breakdown, denied attempt at connection) And as an hopefully emotionally intelligent person I don’t take well to that treatment, treatment, idea,
Peter
2024-10-06 03:14:38 +0000 UTC@Adedolapo Sobowale - Doing for oneself FIRST and FOREMOST is a notoriously "Western" and fairly recent idea. "Rights" have now almost completely surplanted "Obligations". Feminsim is almost ALL about the "rights" of women and almost NEVER about the "obligations" to their community (or species). I'm not convinced how long-term sustainable this approach will turn out be, even for individuals. Your children may find out -- let's hope our current decisions do not place an irreconcilable and insurmoutable burden upon them.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-06 02:28:27 +0000 UTCWell, good luck to them. I'm not trying to "save" anyone or "balance the universe" I'll do what's best for me and my future children, that is all.
Adedolapo Sobowale
2024-10-06 00:00:35 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I'm not aware of any legal jurisdiction that recognizes "verbal consent" (that is not recorded on high-fidelity media), ESPECIALLY where, as @John G.Alt says, the opportunity for RETROACTIVE accusations are held as valid. This is the relationship equivalent of the "Morning After Pills" for the PHYSICAL implications of "a woman's preogative". And with the elimination of even "slut shaming" as a mitigating factor, all bets are off.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 23:57:09 +0000 UTC@Adedolapo Sobowale - One irony may be that such types TURN to Feminism BECAUSE of their deprivation (regardless of the cause), which TRIGGERS the "lust for power and status" and lack of accountability in the first place. The ones you consider "worthy" of a "dominant me" may be the "healthy" ones who DON'T so desperately NEED it. A Catch-22 situation.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 23:43:43 +0000 UTC@E C - You're welcome, but I just state the obvious.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 22:06:24 +0000 UTC@E C - Then maybe you're not as "low quality" as you once feared.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 21:52:21 +0000 UTC@@E C - Are you saying that my "spin" is either inaccurate, misleading or even unnecessary? If not, then I'm just being "kind".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 21:49:08 +0000 UTC@Peter - Assuming the message SHOULD be "softened" assuming the basic contention is as accurate as presented. Ambiguity often easily leads to message distortion or loss of meaning or effectiveness. But perhaps a degree of MITIGATION may be more appropriate (and palatable) under my contention that "The INVERSE may be true as well: That a man may frequently not want to 'EMOTIONALLY exist' when his woman is around." In their throes of intense desire, it COULD be argued that many men act as if they want to be "emotionally infantalized".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 21:46:11 +0000 UTC@J - I SUSPECT it may be in those areas and instances charateristically associated with and expecting of "feminine" attributes and roles, such as nurturing, empathy, gentleness, sensitivity, modesty, gracefulness, flexibility, etc. It would be good if some of the female members here would weigh in to validate.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 21:40:17 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I'm intrigued. Can you specify your different experience?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 21:32:00 +0000 UTC@E C - A woman willing to put in the work inherently improves her "quality" in the eyes of a man.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 21:26:14 +0000 UTC@E C - I think you mean it can last forever "as long as" you listen to what the other person wants. Hence my phrasing "till LOVE do you part".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 20:40:47 +0000 UTCYoutube comments are often deleted on my posts. The platform feel pretty rotten to me at this point, the most insightful and raw truths don't show up when it comes to certain topics.
ATH-YF
2024-10-05 15:31:09 +0000 UTCThis video confirms the fact that I did not had a feminine girlfriend nor I provided a masculine bf experience.. I wish the information available today could have been found in my 20s instead of the blue pill and feminist BS we've been feed and reinforced.
ATH-YF
2024-10-05 15:27:04 +0000 UTC🙃 to me that idea is just wild just wild wild wild. 🤪
Peter
2024-10-05 13:12:58 +0000 UTC@Peter - You’re right. You really need the entire video to get the full context. Women do want to be infantilized, but only at certain times, in certain situations, and with the right man. You have to be pretty far along and secure in your relationship to be sure of when that is. Before that, it is only you reacting to it.
Eric Linden
2024-10-05 13:05:16 +0000 UTCThe YouTube comments focus a lot more on Me Too and SA charges from the first few minutes of the video and the first couple clips. The overall video focuses on understanding women and how they want to turn their minds off, but the YouTubers have a good point. There is a fine line, it needs to be a LTR, and you have to be pretty secure in your relationship to do those things. @John G.Alt was the only one of us here who brought this up so far.
Eric Linden
2024-10-05 12:51:37 +0000 UTCIt would be helpful more if there were examples of when a woman wants to take control in the relationship rather being lead.
J
2024-10-05 11:45:09 +0000 UTC@Joseph - Okay. I do experience this, but perhaps in a slightly different way than most men. We certainly don’t talk about this much; not with women, and not with other men. I use the free version of ChatGPT.
Eric Linden
2024-10-05 09:54:48 +0000 UTCStart with women don’t want to exist or think for themselves. Spend 3/4 if the video highlighting this with examples and all Then at 12 min go and say that women sometimes like independence and they are humans that want to figure out stuff of their own… Where was that nuance in the beginning? The free you tube part is rather inflamitory the way you presented it.. I would have appreciated including the nusnce continually , to soften the message of What can almost be boiled down to “Womens default is wanting to be infantalised” 🤔
Peter
2024-10-05 08:32:35 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Reminds me of the old saying: "I wear the pants in the house, and I have my wife's permission to say so."
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 07:20:24 +0000 UTC@E C - Pefectly understood. 👍 Is there any conflict in your mind arising from the fact of being a follower of a trusted male to which you are NOT romantically invested?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 06:35:39 +0000 UTCMight i offer an alternative explanation 30 min (such a valuable video!) “The illusion of rough sex “ https://youtu.be/ca8zQ2d3RJs?si=NBzMwV-4hQCaSH1a 3 min “ feminity is not receptive” https://youtu.be/JAP1N0Z_yfA?si=Jflpc1H4JVheDTKl 15min “ you are not vanilla you are the hope” https://youtu.be/GYSZytQOcqQ?si=hxlyfRn_EQEkj4JV I find his explanation as logically plausible as the RP he-man approach. I would be particularly interested to hear what women think of the concept in this videos I got this from a video essay examining what true feminine power is and that the reason Fifty Shades of Grey is popular is not because the woman gets dominated but because she manages to convert the Wild dominating man. in the beginning Dorian is dominating and by the end he is on his knees begging unable to exist without her 2 hrs( this was so eye-opening for me) “ women’s fiction and the bad boy desire to be dominated” https://youtu.be/knam1jGDTGM?si=s9T5zoe59_C6rc8y 2,75hrs “ romance is dead and feminist killed it” https://youtu.be/bC5T2AtSTwU?si=KiNQRCTlzgYV1ny- Romance novels are about taming the wild man with your intrinsic feminine traits, not muscle muscles and boss babeing. And I hope that femininity is more in line with this idea than women essentially being children, requiring and wanting dominance and leadership. (for my part, I want a partner not a dependent. if you look at it as a very simple mathematical equation and you say the man is 0.9 and the woman is 0.1 and you complete each other making a whole.. with the man being the dominant leader the 0.9…. I would much rather have a relationship where each of us is 0.7 upgrading overtime to 0.8 the result being definitely higher than one) I like the idea of( anslogy to rough sex, domination etc) if someone has only ever gotten to eat McDonald’s and doesn’t know anything else and has the perception that McDonald’s food is the actual real food that they are going to lean into wanting McDonald’s whether they actually intrinsically want to or not . To be part of the in group, they are going to exalt McDonald’s food. Making necessity to virtue Maybe it’s just cope on my part , but I for one have never felt intrinsically drawn to this perception that only dominance in a male is competence or desirable And I used to try act more dominant, but I was not being more dominant . Acting versus being. And to be something it really has to come from within you and that kind of change is only facilitated by true confidence which is the repeated act of success repeated emotionally disconfirming experiences. Acting dominant was a flimsy Band-Aid
Peter
2024-10-05 06:18:46 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Congratulations! Which version of ChatGPT are you using? On the topic: The willful suppression of emotions is a well known faculty of men in their search for the benefits of emotional regulation and stoicism -- we would not really be men if we did not do so to SOME extent. However, an unchecked escalation taken to the extreme, becomes toxic to long-term psychic health. Usually, it is up to women to help mitigate the more egregious aspects ... to bring men out of their purely cognitive selves. But at the other end, too much emotional prioritizing can cripple cognitive functioning, objectivity and logic, leading to feminine-like inability to make lasting commitments and long-term planning and execution. I believe men are evolutionarily predisposed to default to conscious awareness of self and the dispassionate assessment of their surroundings, such that it becomes tiresome and distracting to have to artificially hyper-analyze and second-guess our emotional states. Abandoning ourselves to the physiologically-induced emotional release of sex therefore allows a discharge of emotion without committing to conscious emotional investment. In contrast it seems, women feel compelled to abandon themselves to the physical release of intellectual submission allowing a discharge of feduciary responsibility without committing themselves to conscious (and draining) cognitive investment. They count on men to pull them out of the physical consequences of their heightened emotion-charged behaviors. For them, it seems, a decision to CONSCIOUSLY participate in sex, calls for a level of cognitive engagement that may be at odds with their current emotional state. Hence, they may need to be distracted away from practical considerations in order to enjoy the full consciously emotional experience. Something like that.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 06:17:41 +0000 UTCThis is such a confusing conflicting topic. I don’t seek to dominate nor do i seek domination. And the thought there of , inflicting dominance, makes me uncomfortable
Peter
2024-10-05 06:14:51 +0000 UTCIs this what you mean? https://chatgpt.com/share/6700c805-389c-800d-94fe-cb91ceb1199a
Eric Linden
2024-10-05 05:01:31 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Maybe. This is practically a cliche among manhood. Can you elaborate on your perspective?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 04:39:52 +0000 UTC@Joseph - Wow. I really can’t relate. I get part of what you’re saying, but I just can’t put it together. Maybe I’m the odd guy who doesn’t experience this.
Eric Linden
2024-10-05 04:18:40 +0000 UTC@E C - At least "till love do you part" with the ideas.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 04:11:36 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I understand this, but the "emotional non-existence" I am referring to has to do with CONSCIOUS emotionality -- the type that women excel and thrive on, when they forever want to "talk about things" and "explore their feelings". This is EXHAUSTING for men This is the complementary equivalent to men always wanting to "fix things" or "make things better". This is what is EXHAUSTING to women. In either case, the REVERSE state is "relaxing".
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 03:52:58 +0000 UTC@E C - Ah, if only women could be trusted to say things that you could count on for them not to change their mind about on the very next posting. 😪
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 03:40:50 +0000 UTC@E C - But do you HATE it that there ARE "areas where your skills are necessary (or are superior)"? If there were ZERO such areas, wouldn't it be the OPTIMUM scenario whereby you would be "bossed" ALL the time? This would make logical sense to me.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 03:37:13 +0000 UTC@Joseph - The only time I wanted to emotionally check out was with my first wife. It happened like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVPpxjZqs2Q&list=PLTq0udibvx-ZmcZEwcyfP8E1JeTt2250m&index=3
Eric Linden
2024-10-05 02:35:08 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Emma Watson ... 👎👎👎 Like Natalie Portman, she has squandered her early girlish femininity. Both with so much potential ... now, Rachel Ziegler. SOOO ugly. 😭
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 01:37:38 +0000 UTC@E C - 🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️ Gabrielle!
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 01:31:44 +0000 UTC@E C - Wow. Could you FINALLY be getting it? 😃
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 01:22:41 +0000 UTCEmma Watson—much as I absolutely loved her (I'm a big Harry Potter fan, especially the first few movies)—is NOT feminine. Not even close. She plays at being a feminist (which itself is no complement in my opinion), but she's definitely not feminine.
Adedolapo Sobowale
2024-10-05 01:10:25 +0000 UTCI never thought about it before, but it seems quite probable that the INVERSE may be true as well: That a man may frequently not want to "emotionally exist" when his woman is around.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-05 00:15:00 +0000 UTC@EC - I don’t see Emma Watson as feminine at all. Do any guys here? She’s a washed up actress who is trying to launch a career a a fake feminist. I don’t think she really believes what she’s said in her speeches. She’s unable to debate anyone who disagrees with her. I don’t see her as a feminist or feminine ( she’s actually kind of masculine). But you are definitely feminine. You have always called yourself feminist, but I just don’t buy it.
Eric Linden
2024-10-04 22:02:01 +0000 UTCWomen do want us to read their minds. Brain on day. Brain off day. Get it right and the relationship thrives. Get it wrong and it’s all downhill from there.
Eric Linden
2024-10-04 21:43:20 +0000 UTC@E C - Are you agreeing that women WANT to cease to exist? I know YOU'VE often expressed a certain level of existential angst during your more wallowing moments, but I would not have guessed you'd gone THAT far.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-04 16:06:21 +0000 UTC8:00 comments. Being in your feminine energy is feminine. It’s not feminism.
Eric Linden
2024-10-04 14:29:23 +0000 UTCIt’s the difference between being in the initial dating phase and a LTR. In the initial dating phase, get some kind of verbal consent.
Eric Linden
2024-10-04 14:03:52 +0000 UTCMen use sex to relax. Women need to be relaxed in order to have sex.
Eric Linden
2024-10-04 13:52:12 +0000 UTC1:25 Are you kidding? Men are not scared of being masculine. Men are scared of being accused of sexual harassment or even rape. Just "taking" her after the second date and your are laying your future into the hands of an emotionally volatile woman, who is in some countries allowed to change her mind AFTERWARDS. Hell no! Even the accusation could ruin your entire life in this mee-too-culture. This chronic lack of sexual spontaneity goes entirely to the account of women because this is what women wanted. So this is what they have to deal with from now on. In the style of one of the greatest philosophers of our time, Dave Chappelle: "Male dominance is dead and women killed it."
John G.Alt
2024-10-04 12:07:58 +0000 UTCA woman wants to be in charge, but she wants you to make all the decisions. Or vice versa. You make all the decisions, you take the lead, but she makes all the rules. Simple right? No. But that’s because we are using logic. It’s an emotional thing, and it depends on how relaxed she is. If your relationship is good, she may be that relaxed most of the time. If your relationship is strained, she may never get back to it again.
Eric Linden
2024-10-04 09:45:28 +0000 UTCOkay, so Feminity = No Thinking. Gotch ya. This take gonna sell well xD Jokes aside I never realized that's the case. Like yeah, women want to be submissive and have competent men and all that. But straight up relaxing by giving away all the control? Sounds extreme. More extreme that I thought was the case, but is actually make sense now that I scroll through my memories.
Cezary Skoczek
2024-10-04 08:46:10 +0000 UTCIf you allow a woman to take the lead or set the rules, she'll resent you with a seething contempt not even a rapist can inspire. The strongest woman and the most strident feminist wants to be led by, and to submit to, a more powerful man. You can give a woman control by delegation, never by submission.
Hyperion
2024-10-04 06:37:49 +0000 UTC👍 I reaaally wanted this video to be longer though, especially as you didn't touch on the increased risk of being "accused of things". I've always felt like the "dominant me" is someone I reserve only for women who I find worthy of it, not feminist-types that want no accountability UNTIL they lust for the power/status associated with it, and then suddenly start playing victim like they were somehow deprived of it initially (when they had, in fact, willingly and intentionally given it up). I've experienced this severally, though not in a sexual context. Any advice anyone?
Adedolapo Sobowale
2024-10-04 05:21:00 +0000 UTC
