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Tuesday Showcase #20: Chapter 32

Hello everyone, and welcome to another Tuesday Showcase!

Chapter 32, which should release in version 0.16, takes place right after Chapter 31.

After what happened during Chapter 31, a certain blonde slut may feel a bit left out. In order to have fun for herself, she decides to ask Laura if she can borrow her bull.

A few hours later, as Laura tells the Madhouse what she did with you, Ashley tells you what she did with Nathan.

Addressing Nathan fatigue

Some feedback recently have talked about a lot of people getting bored with Nathan.

Sadly, with Oliver being optional, and Laura being not comfortable enough yet (in my opinion) to take too many bulls, Nathan is currently the only one I can use for major story beats.

That will soon change though. We're rapidly approaching the point at which Laura will feel comfortable enough to properly increase the number of men in her life.

But for the moment, Chapter 33 should focus on Mike, and the next bull encounter should involve Oliver. Be warned though: if you've removed him, he'll get replaced by Nathan!

As soon as I'll think it's the right moment, I'll try to put Nathan a bit more on the bench. πŸ˜‰

Tuesday Showcase #20: Chapter 32

Comments

I beg to disagree i played the game since the first update and it didnt feel that way : "Also, Le Stag, seens to indulge in the idea of humiliation, hence the ultra-subimisse route (first implemented by the way)" Pretty sure it was more like a loving couple expanding their boundaries. It feels like you didn't play it at the beginning. No ultra-submissive route at the beginning....

Alek

What part do you feel is unrealistic about this game? The part where Laura and MC love each other, the part where they communicate about everything, or the part where they have friends? This game is about healthy sharing and showing a loving relationship which is what the dev has said he is trying to portray. There is nothing healthy about fucking someone that is trying to blackmail you or straight up cheating on your partner. The dev has said there won't be any conflict between the MC and Laura, ever, he even said it in another comment on this thread. It is irrelevant that he made submissive path first and being submissive and having humiliation doesn't automatically lead to ntr. The entire premise of this game is about trust, love and consensual sharing. If you want NTR go play NTR phone, leave netorase phone to its netorase.

Lesdothis

Yeah personally I love this game, no complaints :D

natashki146

Dude, you need to chill. We give ideas because we like and care about the game. It's feels like a consensus that the game is in a standstill, in which we see Laura going out with the same guys, doing the same things or chating with a bunch of lunatics about weird kinks. It's a game and not realistic at all, i really don't know what kind of warped reality you live for a game like this represents everyones reality. The games unrealistic nature is what makes it great. Since, until the moment, there is no baunduries the characters don't want to cross. To be realistic in some moment there must be a backfire of somekind. Nathan falling in love with Laura, Laura doing someone without the express "autorization" of the MC. Also, Le Stag, seens to indulge in the idea of humiliation, hence the ultra-subimisse route (first implemented by the way). The next step seens like an NTR route, that is the reason for so many NTR ideas. And it's getting hard to imagine a progression of that route without being repetitive. Make the first ending of this game, a bad one perhaps. "Congrats you got NTRed. This is a Netorase game, play better, game over!" Bad ending 01

Gabriel LeBelouve

This is a relatively realistic story, sure sometimes things have to be sped up to keep the game interesting, but whats with everyone pushing this blackmail angle? Its not realistic and cliche/boring as hell. This is an NTS game, stop trying to push it to be NTR. The reason most people like this game is because the MC and Laura are a relatively realistic couple that love each other and she isnt trying to cheat on him, It is all about consent and healthy sharing. Why would MC or Laura want her to fuck somebody that is trying to blackmail her, that would be EXTREMELY unhealthy?

Lesdothis

Stagnation is the main feeling with every update. Especially with the adition of other characters, it's kindda of a bore the texts with the other girls that don't mention Laura or pushes the story of Laura and the main character. I don't want to be mean, but the hole point, for me at least, its the relationship between Laura and the MC. When we get the a hole chapter where nothing really happens about it, feels like sex for sex or even an excuse to use some of the art the AI generates. Don't get me wrong the art is amazing and the narrative good, but at the beginning was a drive to get the story rolling, in which every character "made" Laura show something to the MC or MC faced with something new. There was a trill of unknowing what was going to happen, almost like the choices had consequences for the characters. It felt good when Tara first showed Laura with Nathan, and was kindda shocked with it. Even Laura got "scared" and decided to be a little more cautions with this new cheating thing. It was amazing to see ashley pushing Laura to do new things in a not so forced way. They helped the flow of the story, but were not the focus of the story. I really liked the idea of the self typing phone chatroom. Great potential there. We are talking about a game, so we can be a little creative and fictional there. Why not have it turned on during a nightout, make the software genarate a new name everytime it hears a new voice? We would not know which guy would get the prize. The MC can hear all the conversation Laura have with new, onestands, guys? Instead of us typing responses to Laura, we would type to Ashley or Tara to "veto" or push guys to Laura. Perhaps with real sex in the bathroom or, even better, outdoor sex? Pushing that exibicionst fetish a little. On the NTR thing, there could be a compromise about the theme. Because whether its a Netorase or Netorare can be a matter of perspective. Imagine that Nathan visits Laura at her job and they are seen by her boss doing some naughty things. He attempts to blackmail, and together you decides she would let him believe she would succumb to such things, leading to some in work sex, pantyless working, etc. All in all, it's a great story. Amazing idea and development, could use some more focus on the main relationship. Sorry if i overstepped myself and for my poor english. Hope for the best!

Gabriel LeBelouve

It seems like there are a number of folks confidently arguing that whatever their preference is, is what the game should obviously doing. I have seen people arguing that Nathan is clearly a bore and stale and that Stag should be spending more time working on the Oliver line. Other people are adamant that Oliver is cocky and is an annoying waste of time that should be avoided entirely. Somehow they can't grasp that the patrons who support this game have a variety of preferences, likes, fetishes, etc. For instance, I think it would be entertaining and funny to have Laura and the MC flip Oliver's bully/dom nature and turn him into a beta/simp type who is on the receiving end of some BDSM from Laura. People who like Oliver would probably hate that. All I'm saying is different strokes for different folks and maybe just let Le Stag do his thing for a bit. The game isn't even a year old, and as far as I know, it's just him working on it. Let the thing breathe a bit is all.

nooberpwnge

I do like the game a lot, and I'm not personally bored with Nathan, but I do have concerns that it feels like things are a bit stagnant. That being said, I get that you can't really branch much with this game, it's highly linear and it is likely well outside of the budget to spend time taking things on different paths that diverge heavily from the 'main' plot. Even though I get that, that is still what I think is becoming a bit of a pain point for me with this game, that there's no option for me if I DO get bored of a character. The only option is to accept that Nathan is the main bull and there was no choice to choose this, and all of the content will focus on him. Again, at the moment I do think it's fine for this to be the case, but I 100% would prefer it if there was more than one option, and you and Laura could decide on what kinds of things you want to do, even if it was just with Nathan.

Zabon

On the home screen, it's one of the apps and it's called memories.

Lesdothis

Oh and where do i find that? Genuinly

Onlyfornow

Well said! πŸ‘

Neelis

"My intent was basically to say to someone expecting story development that "it's not that kind of game" which by your last response it seems you agree with." No, I don't. You're clearly not reading what I'm writing, going instead for what you think I should be. Which means answering to you is probably a loss of my time, as whatever I could say would get ignored. PS: don't call me a "film snob" when you're the one fixating upon the "comedy" part. The essential part of my answer was the "simplistic" word. I never said comedies couldn't have important messages, I said this one was simplistic. You made that leap yourself, you elitist. And, once again, read what you wanted to read, instead of what I was actually saying.

Le Stag

I feel like people are confused about this game. It is not a cuckold game, it is not an NTR game. It is Netorase. They are different. As someone with actual experience with some elements of this, I can say I understand the slow approach. I don't agree with every decision, and Le Stag is making, but it isn't the parts with Nathan, or Oliver, or whomever. I think one of the crucial elements of Netorase that has sort of fallen by the wayside is compersion. It was there somewhat at the beginning, and I would like to see it make a come back. What I mean is this: Couples that do things like this do it because it brings both partners joy, pleasure, or whatever you want to call it. When I share my wife, I do it because I know it makes her happy. Part of that though, is her sharing that experiences with me, so I can share in her happiness. I would like to see this happen more. I also feel like Laura should be progressing, or experimenting more for this same reason. She isn't having sex with Nathan and Oliver and whomever just to have sex. It is actually about her relationship with the MC. She will do things because she enjoys seeing how happy it makes him. It encourages her to push her boundaries. I want more of that. I want more of them getting closer through this. I want her to talk about how the MC was an animal in bed because he was so turned on, and how happy that made her, and how awesome the sex was a result. I want her to speculate about what she can do to get even bigger reactions out of him. I want them to talk more about these interactions, and how it is affecting their relationship. I don't want her having a relationship with Nathan, or Oliver, or anyone. A Bull is a cuckold term. This wasn't a cuckold game, which is why I liked it, and I support it. I don't need the MC to pursue Tara, or Ashley, or anyone else. I want him to pursue Laura. I personally love when my wife is with someone else, because it motivates me to do even better with her. I don't fear competition or anything else. I know she loves me,and thinks I'm sexy, and a great lover. I feel like that should be in the game also. Let her Challenge him maybe, after being with someone else, and show that they are getting closer. I would even like a path where she is even almost sleeping with other men reluctantly, because she think the MC is so much more satisfying, because they have a personal connection, and she loves how it effects him. She knows doing it encourages him tough, so she continues. No one else is making a game with those elements. Everything is the same old stupid "cuckold;Bull" stuff. I hope LE Stag can buck the trend, and make a sexy, fun game with a great relationship without falling into those same pitfalls. It's up to him though, and I'm just waiting to see. things seem to have gotten way off track however. (edited because I hit enter too soon.)

Taylor Hopkins

It's not Nathan fatigue. It's the fact that the Nathan content has been repetitive. Creampie has been teased foreveeeeeer. New content has been stale and samey. Oliver is a breath of fresh air. I don't even like the character, but at least it feels new.

HR

Hopefully!

Secret

I dont understand the Nathan hate. Long term bulls with them getting more intimate is 100% some of the best part of cuckolding stories. If you just run through men, there is no growth in the relationship. You need growth for a good story and experience.

zaddiethebaddie

Yeah you don't need conflict to drive a story. People are what changes other people. And now MC and Laura are on a journey of self-exploration together. There is no conflict needed to have character growth, like a Tara that is getting more self confident in showing off. Laura that is more confident in sleeping with others, Ashley... well encouraging her friends, and MC also exploring new things even his own NTS or sub/dom tendencies. The great part about this game is that it's all sex positive and told in an interesting way.

Turian

Netorase phone is a great interactive digital novel where no conflict occurs. Highly recommend.

Lesdothis

You don't. The Memories app allow you to start any chapter you want. And your saves should properly transfer anyway.

Le Stag

"its been long overdue that we get some pictures of Laura taking 2 men" Not really, no. Far from it, even.

Le Stag

I'll refer you to my comment "It's the game the dev wants to make so more power to him" from my original post. My intent was basically to say to someone expecting story development that "it's not that kind of game" which by your last response it seems you agree with. I'm a little concerned that you dismissed the clip because it came from a comedy movie as if comedy as a genre can have nothing meaningful to say. If you personally disagree with it, then fine, that's your right, but a film snob dismissal of "that genre is beneath me so it's invalid" isn't a solid argument. Discussing what causes personal change is a hotly debated topic in psychology by people who have spent their whole lives studying it, so I won't get into what objectively causes personal change. I'm not nearly narcissistic enough to think I and only I know the definitive answer to that. I'm willing to accept I may be wrong on my attitude on conflict in stories though. Can you recommend some great novels where no conflict occurs for me to read?

Hatchetman

I don't mind Nathan, I just want to see content where Nathan can finally have some three way time with Laura, its been long overdue that we get some pictures of Laura taking 2 men, you can even do it as a report to Tara and Ashley where they get to see the 3 way.

Weeble Keneeble

Keep the story rolling. You're getting a lot of feedback because so few creators make anything worth a damn, and people are invested personally in this story, which makes them get a bit chirpy. (They're only invested because its good, so bravo)

John Lange

Pace is going really well, it reflects a real world scenario rather than going to fast to soon. Same with having one or main bull. So keep going exactly as you are! But can’t wait till she gets with some BBC!

Tred Grim

I just wish we don't have to beging from the begining every update for android users

Onlyfornow

Not bored with Nathan at all. In fact I think he has some of the best development so far. I also really appreciate his respect and the relationship he has with Laura over how she's treated with Oliver. If anything, I'm a bit more disappointed that Nathan got to Ashley before the MC was able to get further with her.

ChilliPeppers

In my humble opinion the game is going more than well, having Laura immediately find 20 people to fuck would be strange, the whole "baby steps" philosophy makes more than sense and honestly always makes it interesting to see when she will go further. The fact that Nathan is central is better for me honestly, a "bull" always fixed and the other optional ones in rotation like Oliver and Mike is a scenario that intrigues me and I like. I can't wait to see Tara and Ashley interact more "actively" with the MC, but we can't wait for Ashley to tease us with Nathan, she's made us sweat so far, I hope this is the last step haha

AlexP

Are the issues with the android version being worked out? I could play the latest chapters and had to unistall

Jeremy

Well, I can only hope this next update will change your mind then. ;)

Le Stag

And I'll answer that a simplistic answer from a comedy movie is probably not enough to amount to anything. I'm not going to take Nicolas Cage's opinion into account. Sorry. Basing every story on conflict is a marvellous notion... for a fourth grade writing assignment. But after that, things start becoming a bit deeper. Characters can have their own motivations and growth. You'll notice that I talked about growth, where your clip was talking about "people not changing". As if it was irrelevant to our topic here. There's a reason people are mocking the usual "we need drama and twists" of romantic comedies: because it's getting tiring that every fucking story revolves around that, as if humans were only able to stop stagnating if an outside force made them change. And not only is it boring, it's also depressing as fuck. Real humans change by themselves, and for themselves and others. They don't need drama to have growth. And I sincerely hope you don't either. I'm doing something different than all these drama-filled stories. And, I'll be blunt: if you have an issue with that, you may as well leave now, because it's not going to change. Laura will stay your loving GF, and she won't ever create drama. Ever.

Le Stag

yassssssss im am happy now . praise the cucksiah

Justaguy0558

Don't worry. Ashley teasing you with another man is a step toward you finally getting her. ;)

Le Stag

Damn 2 chapters about Nathan, with all the recent mediocre chapters I think that's about the limit for me and will unsub after the next update. This is of course just my opinion but I feel like nothing really new has happened for the past few updates. I'll probably just wait on the free updates till things improve - from my perspective. For all the other guys complaining, only thing you can do is vote with your wallet. I still think this is the best NTS game out there but there's some new games which I think can be a competition to this in the meantime.

Secret

My only wish is to see all the girls worship 1 bull.

ha haha

I'll respond to that with a scene from the movie Adaptation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHVqxD8PNq8 That scene's a bit harsh so I'll also include this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATQV9VLcLss

Hatchetman

Honestly, I’m loving it at the current pace. I get it completely. And as much as I would love to see more bulls, bbc, etc, it boils down to me wanting to play a complete version of this which I know isn’t gonna happen immediately.

PRoject chronos

damn thats disappointing kinda dislike the Nathan x Ashely imo not really necessary and was really hoping that mc would get more action with Ashely cause the mc content is basically non-existent and wouldve lessen the Nathan fatigue. and we could've seen some Joanna with Nathan instead. but still great game i love it just hope for more Ashely x mc content soon plzzzz

Justaguy0558

hopefully

Justaguy0558

Well, i'm on the opposite side and i almost skip any chapter without Nathan, MC and Laura development πŸ˜…. As I've stated sometime ago on Discord, there is at least two types of NTS: the one when the hotwife is a total slut fooling around with a lot of guys, and the one where it focus on a single bull with emphasis on emotional challenges and the reassurance of the MC x wife relationship at the end. For myself, I stick with the second type. If possible, make every extra bull optional and replace their content with more deeper Nathan x Laura scenes.

Marvis

Ashley has done it with Nathan before. She only asks for "permission" to be respectful toward Laura, and not just say "I'm going to fuck him once you're done". ;)

Le Stag

No, there doesn't need to be a conflict. Not every story needs a conflict, and not every development requires a conflict either. Do you apply this logic in real life too? Do you require conflict to improve, to develop? If not, why would a character require it?

Le Stag

I second this!

Ashley Bloom

Will we be able to do sth with Ashley again while Laura is with her bull, like the BJ?

M T

Jerome

If that's the end goal it makes sense in that way, just not sure about the permission. Not sure its implied if Ashley has done it with Nathan or not, but considering her history it wouldn't be unexpected.

BleakLibrarian

There's not really a story, just a series of events. Due to the restrictions of MC and Laura always having to be a perfectly happy couple, you can't really put the relationship through some challenges they have to get through together as a result of their new lifestyle, limiting what can be done storywise. Laura goes through somewhat of an arc with her opening up to new experiences, but she always has to be the loving gf no matter what so even there is even a limit to where her own arc can take her. There needs to be a conflict for a story to occur, and the limitations of the vision of the developer prevent that from happening. It's the game the dev wants to make so more power to him, but the expectations of there being significant story development may be a little unfair due to the type of game that is being made here.

Hatchetman

I've entered a "fast forward" mood. The next chapters will aim to move the story froward more, and I'll try to have more balance with story progression in the future. ;)

Le Stag

Ashley having sex with a random guy would "just" be an Ashley sex scene, that would have nothing to do with Netorase.If she's having fun with Nathan, I can use it to evoke the way he fucks Laura too, making both scenes feed each other, and playing with the Netorase kink.

Le Stag

I think the eventual goal is the Nathan/Ashley/Laura threesome, so you need someone both Ashley and Laura knows.

Hatchetman

Next week. ;)

Le Stag

I'll wait and see what comes out of it, but in my opinion the story moves a little too slowly and there are too few plot twists. At this rate it will be feet for years.

vinszento

I get the point of Ashley wanting a scene with someone, but considering her outgoing and flirtatious personality does she really need Nathan? Since she introduced Laura to Nathan does she need permission? She also recently got a new boytoy. I'm not on Nathan fatigue, just my feedback, you write what you have planned.

BleakLibrarian

I dont mind the Ashley content, but considering she's already been with many men, I feel it's only right she does this with random men still and send pics to tease the group chat as well as entice Laura (bonus Tara)

Wolf Rain

What?? Ashley with Nathan?! NOW I'm getting jealous. :/ He can have Laura all he wants, but Ashley... ah, this is going to be hard to swallow. :D Damn she's hot. If she still had her long hair, that would be the best. I think main reason I'm bored with Nathan (or more accurate term would be tired) are interludes. I personally think all sharing content should be in main scenes, interludes should be just about teasing and/or serve as something giving depth to characters. Like maybe show us players that Laura has a life, hobbies. Maybe a picture with her parents that she visits on a weekend, maybe a pic from cinema she visited with friends or something, etc. If Nathan wasn't in the interludes LauraxNathan content would still be interesting for me. This way it just seems cheap. She goes to Nathan after work why exactly? Because MC is at work still and she's horny? Is that really enough? No, I really don't like interludes done this way. Use them more for character building, less for smut I say. ;)

whf

Ashley content is preferred over Oliver's? I would love a poll about that. Edit: Which reminds me of a question I wanted to ask but I don't know if you can/want to answer. How much data do you get from the player's choices in the game? Do you know the % of players on each dom/sub route? Do you know how many chose to avoid Ashley content vs Oliver content?

Kurem

Fun time at work is something I’d love to see. Laura sending messages and pics about what they did in the locker room during break would be so hot

Aailom

Do we have an eta on next update?

Alikye

For two reasons. The first is that Ashley plays into the "Reverse NTS" story, which i'm exploring too, as in Laura enjoying sharing you. The second is that it's content that is highly requested.

Le Stag

I don't understand why do we get so much Ashley content (this is like what, the 4th time?) while a character that objectively adds a lot more to the NTS dynamic like Oliver is left aside for months and considered optional. Makes absolutely no sense.

Kurem

I don't remember where but I read that you were planning to have 5 bulls. Nathan, Oliver, Mike, you could put a BBC and a more adult one, for example Laura's boss so as to also create dynamics at work

Davide Vinciguerra


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