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Weekly report 73

Hi everybody.

I hope you have all played 0.5 by now and are as excited about Rose's story in 0.6 as we are.


0.5 Quality Poll

Please remember to go to this poll and let us know what you think of the quality of the 0.5 update.


Refunds

We have many new members this month (hello and welcome!), and I just want to remind those who joined in the final days of September that we will soon refund your earlier pledge so that you're not charged twice. You can expect to receive a message from us sometime around the 5th of October (when all payments have been processed) confirming that the refund has been issued.


Android issues

Even though the Android versions available were ported unofficially by players, they work well on most devices. With 0.5, though, we have received reports that some phones and tablets experience issues when loading more resource-heavy scenes (i.e., sex scenes).

Why is that? Because I did not make the game with Android devices in mind (it is hard to do that given the variety of devices out there), and I had not done any Android testing either, since it would have taken us even longer to release 0.5 had I done that. The sex scenes in 0.5 use more images per loop (20 rather than 12), and some of them are larger than 1920x1080 pixels. The vast majority of phones and tablets can run the game, of course, but some can't.

What can those players who experience issues do? In the first place, I suggest you try Joiplay. I have heard from many players who had problems with the Android version that they could resolve their issues using Joiplay (together with its Ren'py plugin).

Additionally, I will try to see if there is anything else that can be done to resolve this issue for current players. I can't promise a solution, and I'm not going to change the existing (and functioning) code, but perhaps modifying the framerate or making an Android-only version with fewer images per loop will do the trick.


0.5's serious part

We have received a lot of messages and comments from players and patrons to the effect that they are happy with the content of 0.5 and don't mind and even enjoy its more serious parts.

I think I need to clarify the situation since perhaps 'serious' wasn't the right term. When we were planning 0.5, it was by far the most difficult update we had made. It had a lot of things to achieve: get us inside the city, introduce Simmone, advance Lana's personal story, resolve her issues, unlock the mansion, introduce us to Sev, rescue Madeline, and do these in a way that would allow us to add sex scenes in the middle and include enough humor and action to keep things interesting. The one bit that I wasn't sure of was from Lana's first vaginal sex until her rescue from the pillory. I remember us thinking it lacked humor and was a tad too dramatic without many fun events. We added the time magic and foreshadowed what was going to happen to Serena, but we didn't have more ideas and had to move on. You can imagine that when after months, we heard some of our testers voice the same concerns we had (because we asked them to be brutally honest and critical), it made sense to us, and this time, we could see a solution. That's why we said we were going to make some changes.

What were the changes we had in mind?

That's it. We thought these changes would improve the update, and our plan was to do them during the weekend. We weren't going to say that, of course, in case we needed the last six days of September. But when we saw people's negative reactions to our decision to work a few more days on the update, we simply didn't have the energy to deal with it.

But anyway, that's over now, and we're just so relieved that most of you enjoyed the update.

Will we still make these changes in 0.6? That was our initial plan when we announced the release last week. But right now, we just want to focus on Rose's content and haven't sat down to discuss what we'll do with those changes. Perhaps we'll change them in 0.6, perhaps with the next part of the Main Story, and perhaps we keep the content as it is and spend our time developing new stuff.


What's next?

Starting tomorrow, we will begin planning Rose's story. I cannot tell you anything about it until after the planning phase is done, but it will be somewhat similar to Myrtle's update structurally.

Lastly, we will take Sundays off again.


That's all

Hope you have a great weekend
Cheers

Weekly report 73

Comments

If I’m being honest the quality of your team’s characters and writing always surprises me especially for this uhhh… style of game, I think right now you have a great tonal balance

Max Kordon

Hello! This was an amazing update. Loved every bit of it and will definitely come back for more. Regarding the changes you are thinking of making. I feel that others have expressed their opinion much better than I will be able to but I want to share mine as well. Honestly, I don't see the point, except maybe for Sev's dialogue. It's alright for a story like this to have more serious moments, I mean, it won't always be fun and games. While there weren't moments where the MC could think for a solution like the previous times, I was ok with that since in this portion, he is basically Lana's sidekick and she has a lot more experience in sneaking around and knows the town. The knife scene showed a part of her that can be ruthless but it also showed that she chooses NOT to do horrible things in order to achieve her goals. As for the pillory scene, if you want to add a sexy scene there, I recommend doing it in a later update. It could be presented as something that either Lana or the MC want to try. We could also have a scene where the MC talks to the guards beforehand, to allow them to have some alone time in order to fulfill their fantasy. These are my thoughts regarding the update. Good luck with the game and will look forward to the next updates.

Dante Red

the images are made lossy to make the file smaller. you can get it from here: https://mega.nz/file/CnwUlR6L#nWceLTpC0fx-z9l8-q2GolH6cDbTxH3yBN8o3jycA_c

MagicNuts

Ps thanks for any help you are giving me

Maharg

This is going to silly but how do you compress a pc download onto a android phone

Maharg

Don't be harsh on yourself, man. It really is not that easy the first time you do it. Two things though: 1. did you try the compressed version for the PC. The original PC version is over 2GB and that is too large, the compressed one, however, is under 500 MB. 2. You need to also install the Renpy plugin for Joiplay. It's another app you can search on google play.

MagicNuts

I like the "serious" stuff. There is plenty of humor and its nice to show how dire some situations are. I dont think changes need to be made. If in your heart of hearts, the changes dont feel natural, don't do them. You guys have been golden so far. Go with your gut feeling!

Krakatoa64

Unfortunately due to either my inability to work technology or that the memory in my phone can't handle the size needed to download the pc version, probably a bit of both to be honest, I've not been able to resolve the issue with joyiplay πŸ™.

Maharg

Ok I'll give it a go. Will this mean deleting the game and restarting it?

Maharg

some devices do run into that issue but I can't replicate it on a PC. Could you try using Joiplay? You can get it from Google Play Store (together with its Renpy plugin) and run the compressed PC version of the game on your Android device. That should resolve the issue.

MagicNuts

Another problem I've just encountered is the game turning its self off just when I'm about to have sex with lana the first time. Not sure if anyone else has had this problem. It's the screen after the one where you are filling her deep wet pussy that fails. Any idea's how to stop it would be good. Thanks.

Maharg

Unfortunately on my mobile phone they do not show on the screen. I'll check and see if I can change it.

Maharg

I doubt increasing the cache would help, unless the issue is that there's some deadline that's being missed due to not being able to cache. But if RenPy asks for more memory than Android is willing to give it because it wants to cache more, (for example, because Samsung refuses to close stuff like the launcher and its spyware to release more RAM), then that's a force-close, unless handled (I'm guessing, haven't actually touched RenPy, let alone on Android).

Jostikas

there should be a button at the bottom of the screen with Menu or Save. Click that and it will bring up the save screen. The ports also support gestures: swipe up.

MagicNuts

thanks for this feedback. Ren'py has a way of emptying the memory cache manually, but that usually isn't necessary since as you predict new images (for a sex scene, for example) they replace the older ones in the cache. I'm going to experiment with increasing the image cache size to see if that makes any difference.

MagicNuts

Hey guys ! First of all, good job for the release it was really enjoyable. About the changes you want to make, here's my opinion. Removing one of Sev's dialogues does not look like a big deal to me. It won't change a lot the feel of the story, so do it if you want as long as it doesn't take to much of your time. You guys make a good game but its quality comes at the cost of us having to wait. We understand that and support you but using your time as best as you can is a plus for all of us. About the dagger scene, I do not think you should change it, her reaction fits her personality and background. She is a princess that got betrayed by her own brother and lived on the streets for several years. Of course she is allowed to have trust issues, dismissing the dagger scene might make her less realistic. Remember that she doesn't know the MC this much and that the story seems to take place in a less safer world that our own. In addition to that, she thinks the MC stole her power, reminding her of one her worst memories. About the pillory scene, you said it, it would not be realistic without making the MC believed by Lana sooner. Therefore removing the dagger scene. There might be an opportunity to do something but it doesn't seem to fit the mood of the story while this is happening. She just failed on her attempt to enter the dungeon, not a great start for a sex scene. Maybe you could make another pillory scene at a different time of the story or for some kind of side quest ? Again guys, great job ! Can't wait for you to release Rose's content but for now, enjoy your break,

Loukraste

Can I ask a simple question as an android user. Where is the save point? I have by accident found one by touching the bottom of the screen and swiping upwards but is there an easier way than this? Really enjoying the game otherwise.

Maharg

I will agree that Lana's initial reaction and threatening behaviour seemed a little out of place. Especially considering how old and pragmatic she is. I didn't find that the overall seriousness detracted at all.

Greg

TBH I think I see why you got the test feedback you did - the episode is slow in sections, with not as much interaction or purely funny stuff in the mid section as I've come to expect. However, you cover sooo much ground in this ep that I feel some of that may be inevitable. I say sleep on it and if you really feel that changes need to be made then go ahead, but I do think that when the game is finished people will jump between character arcs much more than we can presently, lessoning the impact of any one specifically lengthy piece of dialogue or exposition.

EulogizeMBG

The tricky part is to keep the illusion the MC or his love interests can be endangered. If I get the feeling the antagonists in the game are weak and not evil, I'll probably get bored at that point. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but in my book Lana's knife action is far from being unreasonable. Her goal is to free her queen by all means necessary , not to blindly trust a guy she's just met recently.

IdarksoulsI

I immediately grew found of the game when I first played it and now with this release it's getting even better! Part from the awesome hot scenes I like the "bro love" with and between the guards. They're awesome and instead of bulling the local populace they're helpful and loyal.

I think the lesson from this is that there is such a thing as TOO MUCH transparency. Maybe don't share every little detail or piece of feedback from the beta testers. If last month you had instead shared, taking into account some early feedback from the testers, we need a few days to polish some rough edges prior to widespread release.

Daddy Warbucks

This update was great! I already liked Lana, but now I really love that character! In my opinion the dagger scene should stay. it fits Lana's way of not trusting people. Which I can understand, with what her brother did to her. Keep up the awesome work! Storytelling and art is really really great! And I think you have owned a free sunday ;)

Chris Gart

Thank you for all the information. For me the game is good as it is, but of course, you'll see in the future if you want to edit it or let it like that. Also, there would be nothing wrong in taking days off in addition to Sundays whenever needed or inspired to do so. Take care you two.

Marc

So excited for this update, Rose is one of my favorite characters. She is a bit of a mysterious girl and one of the first we meet in the story and have had a small role in both the main story and in Myrtles story. So finally time that she got some main attention!

Rossan 78

The android thing... Your game is fluidly performant even on my 5yo phone (6 GB RAM tho) which is more than i can say about many other RenPy games (which often have frame times and latencies in the hundreds of milliseconds). On my 2019 tablet that only has 2 GB memory, I can't even load the game, it gets killed due to low memory. But that's par for the course for that tablet, even though games that do fit in memory, actually run faster. So in this biased opinion, and not knowing the actual symptoms experienced, I'd say the issue is probably that the full scene when uncompressed doesn't fit in memory. Relevant symptoms would be force-closing on loading the scene. Could maybe be solved by loading a few frames in advance and releasing the already shown ones, and doing that in a circular way, but Python doesn't really have a surefire way to release memory. "del", or perhaps "del"+"gc.collect()" sometimes works when working with datasets that barely fit in memory, but messing with a working animation loop for uncertain gains seems counterproductive. That said, I myself belong in the group that only plays said genre on a phone or tablet, as the family PC is usually in use and I refuse to put games on the work laptop.

Jostikas

I do love 0.5 as it is. Great news about Rose. And... Don't hesitate to take a day off besides Sundays time to time. Burnout isn't fun, and nobody except you can make this game. And the next one some time. And so on.

Dmitriy

Never let perfect be the enemy of good. Really excited to hear that Rose will be the main focus next time. That character has always had so much untapped potential.

GilbertRusk

I loved this update! It is the best so far! I wouldn't change a single thing about it!

WulfgarCyng

Please don't waste time changing something that's good already! Focus on making the new stuff at least as good as this one ;) Cheers

Random Lol

When I first played this, I saw the overview map and imagined a grand tale that would eventually be unraveled. Get busy and quit doubting yourself! I can look at boobs anywhere πŸ˜‰

simdee

The first change makes sense, I'm on the fence about Lana believing us faster. The dagger scene should stay though, I liked it.

Pally Ganker

I agree with this

Feelpowned81

i would like the content to stay as it is, life isnt just joking around, eating pie and fucking girls, sometimes something like being seen as a traitor due to a misunderstanding is quite refreshing and you kept a good balance in jokes nudes and hatred in that update :D just my opinion, get some rest, you did a good job

InfinityOne

Keep up the good work!

William Massie Stevens


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