Overcast or Day/Night Cycle - ETS2/ATS
Added 2024-12-18 15:45:54 +0000 UTCI'm currently working on weather system for new PBR lighting and I'm focusing on realism + performance. I have an idea but some people might not like it.
If you saw any video about "realistic graphics in games" on youtube, probably it had overcast weather with maybe rain. Why? Because sunlight is expensive to calculate with bounce calculations, even you let it use a lot of resource its never going to look good compared to overcast weather. Because games lack of very small details compared to real world and sunlight is shaper than overcast lighting.
I'm playing ETS2/ATS2 to drive and relax, probably most of players are playing ETS2/ATS for same reason. Thats why I don't like sunlight even if it was looking good, because its sharp and bright, adds a lot of contrast to scene which makes it less relaxing.
I want to make the weather always overcast with a lot of different types of skies and clouds so it would feel different most of time even its only overcast weather. Also I want to disable night because you can't see anything and lights are expensive to render.
PBR lighting already improves realism a lot but I will also try to make a better rain system and reflections to add more realism.
And lets not forget, no sunlight = no shadows = better performance. Even you have good gpu, you can't have all the shadows for the scene which makes the experience less realistic.
Even with default foliage it makes huge difference in terms of realism:
Pros of overcast only weather:
Better realism
Higher FPS/performance
Different types of overcast weather with small details
More relaxing experience with softer lighting
Probably better rain system and reflections
Cons:
No night experience
No sunlight to feel high contrast lighting and time of day
Comments
When it will release?
Flick
2024-12-29 22:22:33 +0000 UTCWhy not make it configurable?
Suppi
2024-12-29 08:08:30 +0000 UTCI'm in for Overcast Only! My eyes say, THANK YOU SNOWY MOON! :-)))))
El Kamynante
2024-12-21 22:11:31 +0000 UTChttps://i.imgur.com/Bg4Vmef.jpeg it just looks good even with default foliage <3 Also its pretty cheap to render this + no shadows = better performance
Snowy Moon
2024-12-21 10:19:51 +0000 UTChope my 3060m won't collapse.
cn zf
2024-12-21 03:36:19 +0000 UTCKind of looks like a google map street view on ATS
Allen Genephat
2024-12-21 00:14:53 +0000 UTCThank you <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-20 15:53:29 +0000 UTC<3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-20 15:53:18 +0000 UTCThank you <3 No, its just new lighting system
Snowy Moon
2024-12-20 15:53:04 +0000 UTCЯ очень сильно жду это ПБР освещение, шышка дымиться
100Gramowich
2024-12-20 10:46:38 +0000 UTCdude that looks crazy realistic, do you use rehade?
Zach Attack94
2024-12-20 04:19:29 +0000 UTCI might do that
Snowy Moon
2024-12-20 03:05:11 +0000 UTCI so excited to try it 😍😍
Faouzi Achraf
2024-12-20 01:47:10 +0000 UTCMan you crazy i love what are you doing make things in your way so you give us the best
Faouzi Achraf
2024-12-20 01:45:50 +0000 UTCOvercast only 100%
Adam Doumi
2024-12-20 00:50:12 +0000 UTCDelete win_x64 folder and game config.cfg, restart game, then reinstall TAA
Snowy Moon
2024-12-19 23:26:48 +0000 UTChi, i really appreciate your taa mod but its crashing my ets2 on startup. this started happening after volvo fh6 series release update
Oliver Ip
2024-12-19 14:53:04 +0000 UTCI'm sorry but no sunlight is so silly. I love sunny days and the vanilla graphics are really good on sunny days!
Giang Luu
2024-12-19 09:10:14 +0000 UTCAs imagens mostram resultados incriveis.. Pelo menos na imagem parada é bonito! Parabéns!!
Rafael Ezequiel
2024-12-19 03:01:22 +0000 UTCi have to incline for day/cycle, the game is so beautiful when you drive on those towns during night time, especially on DLC GREECE or BALCANS, the did an amazing job on GREECE villages.
dan bocan
2024-12-18 22:09:45 +0000 UTCAMAZING!
André Santos
2024-12-18 21:53:48 +0000 UTCIt would be ideal if there is a choice. With Great Respect to you!
Станислав Орлов
2024-12-18 20:42:48 +0000 UTCwow! the cloudy weather images look very realistic!!! I love them! but I wouldn't like to miss the sunny days! I hate that in the original version of the game when it rains there is sun, and that there are no cloudy days without rain, does this happen to me?
luciann iann
2024-12-18 19:56:39 +0000 UTCCan you make overcast weather but with night-day cycle? that would be my ideal vote, just day is not very realistic and even boring...
Mateo Vinagre Cárdenas
2024-12-18 17:20:28 +0000 UTCI hope it will be a separate thing from the TAA that I use because personally I am very satisfied with the game as it is, losing the sun with all its atmospheres and night driving is not at all my cup of tea, so if it is attached to the TAA without the possibility of deactivating, you will lose my support for sure.
Vuzz Voom
2024-12-18 17:13:29 +0000 UTCThank you <3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-18 17:10:14 +0000 UTC<3
Snowy Moon
2024-12-18 17:10:01 +0000 UTCI know the 1:1 timescale mod, but where did you get the 3:1?
Edwin Bont
2024-12-18 17:06:35 +0000 UTCLooks great
Grikuz
2024-12-18 16:57:25 +0000 UTCI'm probably going to make overcast first and probably add day/night cycle later if there are enough requests. Because I feel like people doesn't understand the difference its going to make in terms of realism :/
Snowy Moon
2024-12-18 16:26:43 +0000 UTCRussell Forbes
2024-12-18 16:26:10 +0000 UTCpersonally i prefer driving overcast just feels more realistic never liked ats sun lighting it just doesnt look realistic and makes roads go whitish in colour ...btw great work snowy and loving the new ovecast pics keep up the amazing work youve brought ats and ets to a new level cant thank you enough
Tim Paginton
2024-12-18 16:22:43 +0000 UTCI still think it's worth keeping the day/night cycle, especially to have mornings/evenings and keep the long rides feeling long, but I wholeheartedly support the removal of the sun and keeping the weather to overcast only! Hopefully that could be a good alternative to leaving sunny weather in if people don't come around after checking out the screenshots
russiaisaterroriststate
2024-12-18 16:16:03 +0000 UTCIt looks fantastic Snowy. My concern is, with such limitations you will lose potential guests/customers. For example, If I were new to ATS and I saw PNG, JBX and Kass' weather mod as options and saw yours. I would have to go with one of the other 3 because they offer the full variety of day/night and weather. It would be a shame because unlike the others you offer unique mechanics with your plug-ins like advanced AA, lighting and trees. Would be a waste of assets imo.
Romero Ocaranza
2024-12-18 16:14:05 +0000 UTCHonestly, I hope this weather, grass, etc mod, be in the same quality to taa plugin, because you're amazing man and keep doing a great work
Igor Rocha
2024-12-18 16:11:07 +0000 UTCSure but I think when I make both options most people are going to use overcast option even they don't think they are going to now because realism difference is going to be huge. I think I can release overcast version first and add day/night cycle later.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-18 16:10:43 +0000 UTCI think this is a case people needs to see it first instead of thinking about it. I think this a perfect way to get most realistic looking game. And I want to focus on it because there are lot of ways to make overcast weather look different and interesting. I just added screenshots a few minutes ago so probably most people didn't see it :/
Snowy Moon
2024-12-18 16:07:51 +0000 UTCAlso, wow do those example screenshots look great! I'm playing in VR and would love to have that experience, especially if that doesn't come with any major performance hit, surprised to see little to no support on this opinion
russiaisaterroriststate
2024-12-18 16:04:26 +0000 UTCAs always, if you can manage it, best to offer different options for everyone's taste
Dixiit
2024-12-18 16:01:21 +0000 UTCI agree, no enthusiasm at all for permanent overcast days.
Alan
2024-12-18 16:01:01 +0000 UTCNewly added simple lighting screenshots from the game with default foliage + PBR lighting + overcast weather: https://i.imgur.com/GcOsaEx.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/RYtl5Jq.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/fDwtzIN.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/bPpLODb.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/XgoxIbN.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/KLXvAQb.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/FsHjZAc.jpeg I think people are not going to realize the difference it makes until they see it themselves.
Snowy Moon
2024-12-18 16:00:58 +0000 UTCI don't care about performance as long as I can reach 60fps so just go for the normal Day/night cycle as only overcast would be too depressing over time. lol
Mak
2024-12-18 15:57:57 +0000 UTCHonestly, I'm totally on board with removing the sunny weather and chose "Overcast Only" out of the two, but I also enjoy driving at night and, most importantly, I like the feeling of driving in the morning or evening. So, a perfect option for me would've been keeping it overcast only with day/night cycle still present, basically just limiting the weather variety. Maybe that's why the Day/Night option is winning atm?
russiaisaterroriststate
2024-12-18 15:57:12 +0000 UTCPBR Project looks very promising. I think you should continue it as normal and have this secondary idea as an option.
Romero Ocaranza
2024-12-18 15:51:48 +0000 UTCHow did you even read in a minute and vote
Snowy Moon
2024-12-18 15:48:20 +0000 UTC