So... Stretch Goal question
Added 2025-03-19 19:18:33 +0000 UTCSo because I'm irrationally skeptical of my own success, I sorta didn't plan out any real stretch goals for the Dark Science Kickstarter.
For those who are backing or are interested in backing, what kind of stuff would you like to see? Examples include (at the lower end) new sticker sheets included in every order, new patches, reprints of older books (The Tomorrow Girl is basically sold out!), or even printing new companion books for every order, like a new Dark Science primer/art book.
Honestly though, throw anything at the wall, the sky's the limit. Maybe at $500k we make Kim's cool jacket for the store. Maybe if we reach a million dollars I'll develop a Dark Science point and click adventure game, etc.
What kind of stuff would you guys be interested in?
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The world could use some quality opposition right about now.
Torabi
2025-03-23 10:02:23 +0000 UTCOh awesome! I was kinda hoping this would happen to free up some spots!
Sen
2025-03-21 15:48:11 +0000 UTCI already have the Silver Edition of Tomorrow Girl, so Junior Giantslayer is ideal.
Aurorachimera
2025-03-21 15:38:06 +0000 UTCKind of letting the viewer break the fourth wall
Bernard
2025-03-21 11:05:19 +0000 UTCHow about a slightly interactive single dresden codak comic? Something to enjoy the art of and lazily play around with at the same time. Click and Watch some characters run up to someone. Or toss melcheor across the pages, back and forth. Etc.
Bernard
2025-03-21 11:04:34 +0000 UTCA dark science visual novel would be awesome but imho difficult. Should it be short, so we could play all the paths and get to see all the art? Should it be long as some ppl would expect? How much work and time would tons of drawings be until you can string them into a novel? Would it be feasable without hiring help?
Bernard
2025-03-21 11:01:18 +0000 UTCI have seen comic prints on canvas material with a frame for wall decoration and they look great and fancy and would be awesome with some of your work
Bernard
2025-03-21 10:55:08 +0000 UTCSo this will be up tomorrow as a Kickstarter update if you're already a backer, but I thought I'd give you cool cats an early heads-up: I WILL be opening up a few more tiers of "Junior" Northstar and "Junior" Giantslayer, just without the Tomorrow Girl books included, but they're going to be in pretty small supply (25 copies for Northstar and 100 for Giantslayer). So if you wanted to grab one of those, keep an eye on that for tomorrow morning!
Sen
2025-03-20 21:03:13 +0000 UTCIt'll have to be a pretty high stretch goal, but I'd like to do that!
Sen
2025-03-20 18:45:18 +0000 UTCReprints of prior books would be fantastic.
Brad
2025-03-20 18:26:17 +0000 UTCI still need Tomorrow Girl >.>
Awkward Dragon
2025-03-20 17:05:07 +0000 UTCI would love to see the sticker set or the like turned into little jpg/gif/png that can be used as avatar pictures for my windows login, patreon profile etc! I’ll be honest, I took the dept of opposition logo and made it small so I could use it as my windows login picture, I work in IT and it makes me happy everytime I see it.
Tao Gold
2025-03-20 13:06:49 +0000 UTCIs there something we could get you? Knowing that you are happy, comfortable and have all your needs met is important to my enjoyment of your art.
Roo
2025-03-20 10:55:58 +0000 UTCPizza Dungeon. Anything Pizza Dungeon. Shirt? Cloth napkins? Stickers? Magnets? Anything with their logo would be great! I want to be a pizza master!
Torabi
2025-03-20 07:47:37 +0000 UTCI think expanding on any of the in-world media you've hinted at within the comic would be great! Night Puncher, Sword Magician, Dr. Kill / Captain Freedom... I'm probably forgetting some! But Streets of Fraiser is probably the one we've seen the least of, and it would be great to have more than just the one shot of the arcade cabinet!
Torabi
2025-03-20 07:33:48 +0000 UTCI think people's understanding of crowdfunding may have decayed almost instantly, but it's not just supposed to be some fancy preorder or exclusive shopping mechanism. It's to fund the initial development of something that will go on to see wider availability.
Torabi
2025-03-20 07:25:30 +0000 UTCYES!
William Cole
2025-03-20 02:34:39 +0000 UTCI replied with this in a different comment, but high quality pngs that can be used as backgrounds? maybe of scenery or also characters specifically formatted to look nice in those asepct ratios?
GearedForMusic
2025-03-20 01:49:30 +0000 UTCTomorrow Girl is on my list as well. I can't believe how fast those tiers sold out! I have to wait for pay day before I make a pledge, but the upper levels were certainly within what I am willing to pay for a Kickstarter. :(
Tim Starliper
2025-03-20 01:21:03 +0000 UTCLapel pins. ALLLLLLLLL the lapel pins!
Jarrod Rose
2025-03-20 00:41:33 +0000 UTCI also love the scenery! Prints or downloadable phone/tablet/laptop high quality PNGs of the scenery?
GearedForMusic
2025-03-19 23:49:29 +0000 UTCI'll second that some printable stuff - characters, symbols, items - would be great and seemingly in-theme. Plus, no physical production / distribution means low per-backer costs so it's easier to add to each pledge rather than requiring an addon
Jacob Kessler
2025-03-19 23:24:46 +0000 UTCAn adult coloring book, and by adult I mean more sophisticated and not like “for adult audiences only” (although a little tasteful PG-13 work would be in-theme). I work in a bookstore, and complex, sophisticated coloring books are popular.
Rob Scott
2025-03-19 22:53:34 +0000 UTCProbably not a great stretch goal idea, but I'd love a process timelapse, love how DS evolved over the years and want to know how you're currently doing it <3
Raine
2025-03-19 22:48:08 +0000 UTCI'm working on a solution to this, stay tuned!
Sen
2025-03-19 22:33:44 +0000 UTCMy 2 cents: Figures and apparel are the dream, and enamel pins and stickers never disappoint. My rising sun patch is on my favorite jacket, so the Official Licensed Product version would be crazy to own lol
Dezz
2025-03-19 22:28:32 +0000 UTCI am bummed I didn't get the Giantslayer edish with Tomorrow Girl physical - would be thrilled to add it on (I have the PDF but have since done a full 180 on my "don't clutter your life with physical media" policy from however many years ago)
aran
2025-03-19 21:28:09 +0000 UTCI also love coins but I agree that this should be kept within your means.
Mel Orr
2025-03-19 21:12:20 +0000 UTCShut up and take my money![/Fry]
Mel Orr
2025-03-19 21:11:05 +0000 UTCI second a map of Nephilopolis! I always need to know where everything is in relation with everything else.
Mel Orr
2025-03-19 21:09:52 +0000 UTCWould love it if we can get at least a nice STL of some of the characters we can print ourselves
GrimmSalem
2025-03-19 21:00:16 +0000 UTC"Tomorrow Girl", but a 12x16” version, to match the dimensions of Platinum "The City of Giants". Perhaps, an option to change the TG version in the current pledges, which would free the regular-smaller ones to become optional add-ons? And pins.
Preppikoma
2025-03-19 20:33:22 +0000 UTC"Legally Obligated Gay Drawing" and "Legally obligated Extra Gay drawing" in print
tagno25
2025-03-19 20:26:49 +0000 UTCYou can do anything you want though. You could have the dark science characters do a dungeons and discourse mini arc and THEN release dungeons and discourse pins. I'd pay for both/either and i haven't contributed yet. I mean i just found out about the kickstarter but yeah
Peter Scheyer
2025-03-19 20:22:54 +0000 UTCI can't do Dungeons & Discourse in a Dark Science Kickstarter because there's no Dungeons & Discourse in Dark Science!
Sen
2025-03-19 20:20:33 +0000 UTCGosh, dungeons and discourse renditions of popular classes. I remember being mildly disappointed I couldn’t play that game. :)
Wtcher
2025-03-19 20:18:52 +0000 UTCSen, I love your scenery! I would love to see a compilation of scenery and vistas, and maybe even a map of Nephilopolis? Call me crazy, but I want to see the bones of the Giants!
K Monika Hawkinson
2025-03-19 20:15:09 +0000 UTCRationally? I’m not sure you really need more stretch goals. The project is a success :) If anything, things that are low impact — low logistical needs, you don’t want to find new ways to torpedo your project. Irrationally? I’d love some sketch tiers, some commission tiers. Maybe some people would enjoy watching a stream of you completing some artwork. Maybe something like character art (e.g. in the mode of band posters — here’s team evil, here’s team Kim) would be cool, and could be recurring revenue content in the future. Perhaps donations (books to libraries, funds to appropriate charities) would be swell.
Wtcher
2025-03-19 20:10:12 +0000 UTCNow that you mention it, I vaguely recall lusting after them back in the before times when I couldn't afford to order cool stuff from America. It did feel like a familiar idea. Brains are weird
Tabby
2025-03-19 20:06:46 +0000 UTCI want dungeons and discourse pins!
Peter Scheyer
2025-03-19 19:57:54 +0000 UTCWe actually used to sell a cyborg pride messenger bag that I really liked (I still have mine), but for reasons I can't remember, we weren't able to make more with that manufacturer
Sen
2025-03-19 19:57:23 +0000 UTCHeck, prints/posters of the gay and extra gay drawings would be sweet :3
Tabby
2025-03-19 19:55:26 +0000 UTCNot super into patches and badges, but posters, prints and stickers are always good, ditto more books or a reprint of the shinier version of the Tomorrow Girl. The jacket idea is cool, and a decent cyborg pride laptop satchel might be neat but might be tricky Love the idea of a point & click game but for your sanity I dunno how much of a good idea that is 😅 As others have said though, I backed at the level I did to get the things I wanted with no expectation of more, so I'd be happy even without stretch goals. Enjoy that sweet sweet profit from your labour that you put out into the world for free ^_^
Tabby
2025-03-19 19:54:07 +0000 UTCWell now I feel like I definitely have to!
Sen
2025-03-19 19:50:43 +0000 UTCMaybe at $300k I make "official" game art for Streets of Frasier...
Sen
2025-03-19 19:50:18 +0000 UTCOh I'll certainly be cautious. The nice thing about working with Topatoco for this is that they're pros at Kickstarters and will keep me from throwing myself off the edge
Sen
2025-03-19 19:49:41 +0000 UTCIt's always been my dream to have a cool jacket like Kim's, I'm glad I'm not the only one
Sen
2025-03-19 19:48:40 +0000 UTCSame. 🫤
Weston Clowney
2025-03-19 19:48:36 +0000 UTCOn the one hand, I'd love a Cyborg Pride (edit: and Dark Science) challenge coin (I love coins). On the other hand, I'd warn against going crazy with physical rewards especially; they have been the bane of many Kickstarters past. Regardless, I'm delighted for your success!
Conduit of Snacks
2025-03-19 19:46:53 +0000 UTCI love the pin idea! Departments or the faves from the latest sticker sheet. I already have a tattoo for this, no reason not to add Kim to my jacket! Outside of the Kickstarter, Kim's jacket (in plus sizes) in the store would be an easy auto-purchase for me!
Jordi
2025-03-19 19:46:46 +0000 UTC+1 Snowglobe!
Matt Grayson
2025-03-19 19:45:59 +0000 UTCStickers and pins. And I like the idea of you treating yourself to cake as a stretch goal.
Hugh Eckert
2025-03-19 19:44:46 +0000 UTCThe jacket would be an absolute immediate purchase
It's Lina
2025-03-19 19:44:39 +0000 UTCYes!
Hugh Eckert
2025-03-19 19:44:04 +0000 UTCI love stickers!
Casual Cheese
2025-03-19 19:43:25 +0000 UTCTomorrow Girl reprints would be lovely. At some point in the last 12 years and 5 moves my copy went MIA
maillesmith9
2025-03-19 19:40:58 +0000 UTCOh for sure. I learned a lot from the last Kickstarter, and this time around we're not going to realistically offer anything that I don't already have a design for, or have the means to realistically put out with the book.
Sen
2025-03-19 19:36:59 +0000 UTCI already have The Tomorrow Girl Freakin' Ginormous Edition, so no worries there... but for the love of all that's decent, upgrade the Sen name stickers to archival cloth and ink if they're not already.
John Whitley
2025-03-19 19:35:45 +0000 UTCAwesome! I've got some fun ideas for standees, and would definitely like to do something with that Giantslayer-style Kim design
Sen
2025-03-19 19:34:20 +0000 UTCWe'll almost definitely be doing that too! What's nice about working with Topatoco is they've run countless Kickstarters at this point (though I was their very first!) and have all the financial calculations down to a science
Sen
2025-03-19 19:32:36 +0000 UTCI kind of like crowdfunding that doesn’t go crazy with stretch goals. We’re here to fund the new book. Adding things that take a lot more development time outside of the scope of the project almost inevitably leads to delays. If you already have sticker sheets designed and just need to increase the print run, that’s fine. Reprinting the previous book, also seems doable. Development of a computer game or whatnot seems like a headache waiting to happen. New patches if you already have contacts for production and would just need to draw up the design also seems reasonable.
Jesse Garrison
2025-03-19 19:32:22 +0000 UTCTomorrow Girl Book, please!
Matt Grayson
2025-03-19 19:32:00 +0000 UTCReally I've got what I want, but more books & art would be awesome!!!
DasGanon
2025-03-19 19:31:00 +0000 UTCI've said it before and I'll say it again: PINS Get me some department pins!
Orion Rhine
2025-03-19 19:30:49 +0000 UTCHonestly I would love a Kim styled vintage looking nylon jacket, but I would want that as a store item not part of the campaign.
DasGanon
2025-03-19 19:30:33 +0000 UTCWhat about posters (e.g. of the desktop wallpapers) or prints from the comic?
Joe
2025-03-19 19:29:15 +0000 UTCStickers or a patch would be awesome, but be careful not to eat into your take too much with free goodies for us backers. Is it possible to add goodies like these to the optional extras section? That might be a clever way of getting people who want the new items to revise their pledges and make more impulse addons.
Alex Macgregor
2025-03-19 19:28:29 +0000 UTCI love the snowglobe idea
Joe
2025-03-19 19:27:46 +0000 UTC* Matthias Melchi-orb "snowglobe". * Figurine/statue of Kim & Ling, inspired by last panel of DS #145
Tiogshi Laj
2025-03-19 19:26:01 +0000 UTCTomorrow Girl reprints as an addon, maybe give a Tomorrow Girl pdf to every tier. I missed out on it somehow, and I have been a fan for over a decade.
Aeryn Light
2025-03-19 19:23:41 +0000 UTCHow about D&D 5e character sheets for various characters? (inspired by Dungeons & Discourse perhaps?)
Matthew Hoeveler
2025-03-19 19:23:08 +0000 UTCYes!
Info_Overload
2025-03-19 19:23:07 +0000 UTCOh dang, I forgot: would people be interested in a Department of Opposition patch? I feel like that would be cool
Sen
2025-03-19 19:22:46 +0000 UTCI'd be interested in some more patches and pin badges! I still love my cyborg pride ones from the Tomorrow Girl 😃
Info_Overload
2025-03-19 19:21:51 +0000 UTCOk, serious talk, I would LOVE Kim's jacket. I'm guessing a more sensible options would be more patches, more standees (My vote goes to "Do you not recognize Death?" Kim) and such.
Francesco Villani
2025-03-19 19:21:24 +0000 UTCYou mean, other than you being happy and successful? I mean, you could get yourself a slice of cake or something, I suppose.
j r conlin
2025-03-19 19:20:20 +0000 UTCPersonally, I'd love some stickers!
Emily
2025-03-19 19:19:46 +0000 UTC
