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Attack On Titan S4 Ep 26

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Attack on Titan, One Piece, Naruto and Yu Yu Hakusho = Big4

Thiago Gaspar

For the Founding Titan to control the rumbling u need the founding Titan and Royal blood like Zeke or Historia. Then another alternative would be just to get rid of the royal bloodline. In that way there will be people that would inherit the founding Titan but they wouldn't be able to control it at all without the royal blood. You don't need to castrate the Eldians just get rid off the FritZ blood line that including Historia and Zeke and you're fine. Even if someone would inherit the founding Titan in the future they would not be able to control it.

Froxy Fox Foxy

Team floch

Dajhaya Jones

It's painful to watch.. I cry even before watching the episodes since I read the manga. I know Eren way is not the 'right' way but I'm with Eren since I feel him based on what the manga writer has poured in so much to tell and express Eren's feelings and thoughts and the entire story.

Phyllis

Zeke wanted the pacifist way out. Least blood spilled. Eren wanted revenge + the W for Eldia. There was no middle ground for this since humanity's bigotry is too large to control even in real life. Both sides fighting to try and get each other's way just spills more blood and this is the result. More pain. More action for us anime watchers though! I have enough ethics and moral issues dealing with real life I don't need to lose sleep over anime ones lmao.

Harrave

How did Daz of all people make it this far

Maggie

Fun fact, the guy conny kills is the guy Sasha saves in previous episode

Jordan

bruh they literally gunned down armin, probably woulda got conny too

FURsona

It’s so sad to see Conye like that

The Quadfather

people have read and love :skullemoji:

DB Cooper

yes. and samuel is the one that sasha saved too.

Lana Dalo

Oh man Allen you a breath of fresh Air. I stg the AOT fanbase eats glue. They make Floch out to be a villain when he is literally just trying to survive lmao. I don’t blame him at all. Armin and Mikasa are dumb and evil (the worst mix 😂)

Galaxy Nemesis

Zeke has entered the chat…

Galaxy Nemesis

There is no way Erwin would support the actions of Armin and Co this episode. Erwin is on the side of truth. He would likely be a Yagerist. Erwin has no problem with death (though i would like to think Erwin would be sensible enough to go with Zeke’s plan)

Galaxy Nemesis

💯

Galaxy Shogun

eren all the way!! like is there any other choice for eldians to live peacefully without getting persecuted all around the world after this? lol humans should learn to take responsibility for their own action, the alliance is basically a bunch of sellouts

adam

Sound is too low

Aptos Meta

Wtf?

朱宇淵

wen Ron said that Connie was his fave at the start I was so happy because I KNEW this scene was coming up, this along with his mother being turned into a titan and with Sasha getting murdered right in front of him and now coming to this where he has to make a choice to murder a 104th cadet corps member..... someone her trained and lived with for years.... the trauma that Connie goes through is truly heartbreaking and to hear him let out that cry just hurts.. Love Connie man, love Jean to and everyone even the Marleyan kiddos ;--; really wish they couldve all lived in harmony but the world wont let them.. Also its so kickass to see Reiner and Annie fight together and its crazy it has taken until almost the end of season 4 for this to happen! #TeamEren

Harper

Didn't Erwin say he was on the side of the truth not humanity?

Brian J Taylor

I am and forever is a team Jagerist. Many times the phrase to beat a monster you have to become a monster has been brought up. Armin even said it to Eren back when Eran couldn't bring himself to beat Annie. The eldians fighting for Marley has caused the people of the island nothing but pain and has branded them as monsters to the world. Just so the Marlyians can wipe them up and claim the island's resources. So I say burn the world outside of paradise island

Leroy Derange

Paradis would've gotten destroyed anyway. Just because you kill off the entire world doesn't mean those left aren't going to get into civil war. Look at what was going on with the Jaegerists and the people of Paradis. They were killing anyone who didn't agree with them. Years later Paradis gets bombed too. You missed the point of the show if you truly think the solution to this is genocide. Conflict and hate is unavoidable. Even Erwin said: "People won't stop fighting each other until the human population is down to one or less."

Gael

exactly LMAO hella paridisians died

Gael

I’m aware of that. Civilians die in war. Sucks but that’s the truth. I’m talking big picture here.

Cubjitsu

eren wiped out 99% of paradise himself LOL

Cloudburst

as the world should. eldians deserve nothing but death

Cloudburst

eren killed every eldian outside of wall sina. yall forget he broke ALL the walls & all them titans razed paradise already

Cloudburst

you forgot about the part of actual history where eldians go against each other after taking over the world just because of boredom. they are the devilish race they were described to be

Cloudburst

false. eren already destroyed 99% of paradise himself. he only saved the ppl in the interior of wall sina

Cloudburst

yes, it gets destroyed anyway. eren caused his own ppls destruction LOL

Cloudburst

you mean the interior right? cause eren broke all the walls & anyone on living in paradise who wasnt in the interior was killed by sina wall titans LOL

Cloudburst

so let them die as they are going to anyway. the world needsd to get rid of eldians

Cloudburst

erwin is always on the side of “humanity” hed stop eren

Cloudburst

@Galaxy Shogun WTF ARE U SAYING THAT U SUPPORT GENOCIDE??//?/EREN IS LITERALLY HITLER BUT AT LEAST HITLER CARED ABOUT GERMANY OR SOMETHING EREN ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF

iu

Zekes plan not looking too bad now eh?

Galaxy Nemesis

This

Galaxy Nemesis

YESSSS FINALLY A RATIONAL THINKER LOL. I dont understand how so many people support Armin and co's actions this episode.

Galaxy Nemesis

Armin and Co are such hypocrites... So selfish they literally only care about their own feelings what they are doing is not for anyone but them sleeves in actuality. Traitors through and through. They LET Annie trample their comrades again. Erwin would be turning in his grave.

Galaxy Nemesis

This ending makes gaming of thrones ending look good by comparison haha

Galaxy Nemesis

Daz is the fellow that Ymir saved right

Malik Ford

*Arimin Spits out blood on the floor* "Yea hes fine hes fine" HAHA

Killua Metham

It’s kill or be killed at this point. If I lived on Paradis I’d be completely ok with The Rumbling. If they don’t go through with it the entire world is planning to invade the island within a few months time and wipe them all out. The characters from Paradis are the ones we followed most of the show and got attached to, so Team Eren all day 🫡

Cubjitsu

The only bad writing in the entire series was chapter 138

Eric Graham

The only other feasible plan was Zeke’s. Either the eldians die off naturally or the rest world is coming to destroy you regardless. Attack on Titan is a kill or be killed world

Eric Graham

Fuck them kids Eren is day 1 ride or die

eric

There is no other way, the world was gonna destoy paradis. It was either act now or get destroyed

Allen Valdes

lol agree !! finally someone with common sense thankyou

adam

THIS !

adam

I think Eren is left with no choice. He either destroys the world or the world destroys Paradis. Is a zero-sum game, someone loses, the other wins. Is a cruel world. Eren chose to win, to fight, to not be on the losing side. Cause someone is going to lose anyway. Both would end in genocide, and that´s obviously wrong and Eren knows it. He just chose Paradis to not be the victim of this inevitable genocide. Eren obviously would take an alternative way, if possible. But is not. That's why he was so angry when he asked Hange if there's another way, almost becoming a titan. Armin thinks talking things out and understanding each other would work, and it certainly did with this new alliance and between gabi, kaya and blouse family. They understand that everyone is just people and that there's evil inside everyone. That people are born innocent and shouldn't carry the blame for things people did in the past just because they are of the same race: that's the wise conclusion of Sasha's father. Eren knows that, that's why his compassion towards Reiner was genuine and he said "I'm the same as you". But he also knows this understanding is not possible on a global scale, between all people in the world. Is just impossible in the timeframe necessary to save Paradis. Genocide is inevitable. That's why, even though he understands Reiner, he also told him "I keep moving forward until I destroy my enemies". These nuances are the beauty of this show.

Gmvq

Sounds like you do. There are tons of ways to handle it. Tons of potential outcomes. Floch is a spineless thoughtless fool who feels like a dog backed into a corner so he just kills and uses this to justify evil actions. Maybe he should join with everyone and come up with a better plan then genocide. I'll side with Hange, Levi, Armin, Mikasa any day.

Phil K

That's a load of crap. It's not guaranteed they die. There are plenty of different potential outcomes. What happens for instance....also, so you are saying you would wipe out the world to save your own life. You must be a child.

Phil K

Ya, I know you just want to kill your friend and Save The Fucking World that you care of.

Vincent2022

Yeah pretty much, there has to be a better way. Eren: genocide is the only option, reiners crew: we have to kill eren, mikasa/armin: there has to be another way. Only sith deal in absolutes 😑

EJ Roldan

Comment sections when it gets to this part of the show are always.. interesting. It's people either saying "I HATE EREN" or "TEAM EREN YES GENOCIDE GO!!" and both parties miss the point of the show entirely LOL - It's so nuanced and that's the beauty of it. I'm pretty much aligned with how Ron feels, I love Eren. I am team Eren as a person but not team Eren's actions. I believe he does what he feels is the best course of action for his people, for his loved ones. But that doesn't make genocide right. Even Eren knows that, but in his mind it's like.. what else can be done? I hold the power, I can "fix" this. Honestly it's tragic and you just end up feeling very sad after every episode of this series haha

Monii

ummm. if you just shot my friend, titan shifter or not, I'm not gonna try and knock you out and tie you up. No time for that. You're a problem and the world is at stake. lmao

Jordon

Conny and Armin claimed that they didn't want to kill their friends at the beginning. Why couldn't they just knock their friends out instead of killing them? They are literally hypocrites and traitors.

Vincent2022

Who hurt you?

John Bass

Amazing analysis, you brought up facts about Japan I never knew about! I'm going to have to read up on that now!! But I conclude the same way, I'll always side with the people trying to make peace.

John Bass

#TeamAlliance

John Bass

I honestly don't understand team Eren. What makes Eldians more important than the rest of the world? And we already know that when Eldians are in power, they just fight each other. That's 100% whats going to happen if only Eldians are left in the world. They'll fight for the titan powers.

John Bass

#TeamArmin ❤️

John Bass

are you guys doing a rewatch to recapture previous reaction and get stuff you could have miss ?

Maya-Jade Ouimet

They told Falco about the Jaw during the fiasco with Conny's mom.

Eugene Conner

@Phil K u lack critical thinking

iu

RON IS FLOCH

Nicky D

conny a pu*sy ass mf for that move, imagine killing your homies to help some mfs that declared war on YOU and tried to kill you like 2 days ago.

REDRIOT

Udo said that there are interment zones in other countries aside from Marley where Eldians are treated even worse.

Hasan

I've always found teaming with Eren to be selfish, its the easiest side to take and in my opinon very surface level. Been the main character for years and seen him grow. Everyone is saying he's only protecting the island and the people he loves. Or that the world wanted them gone. Well if I was in one of the other nations I'd for sure want the Islanders gone. A small nation having sugh a world ending power... I'll always say genocide is wrong no matter what. Sure you can call me a hypocrite for saying its genocide on the eldians. But I'm talking about the HUGE amount of innocent lives you'd save by stopping Eren. Its cruel to think sacrificing the vast majority that are innocent just to kill a few that are guilty. Team Hange ftw

Charles Cow

Team Eren to the end. What Eren is doing is protecting the people he cares about instead of standing idly by while the world wipes out everyone in the island.

Amber Augustine

GENOCIDE BAD THO

iu

Jaegerists forever. The world had no problem wiping them all out given the chance. Finally, they could have peace.

Chase M

Armin and the scouts all traitors fr im team floch and eren let everyone outside the walls die cause if eren didn’t do what he’s doing they all would be dead inside the walls rn

Lo 7

just cos they appeared doesn't mean we know who they are. If you remembered them when watching for the first time then you have a sick memory for faces and names!

Edward Johnson

You actually do know those two characters. Daz has been there since season 1, just in the background but has scenes through season 3, and the only time we see Samuel is episode 4 season 1 when Sasha saves him from falling off the wall after the colossal shows up for the second time.

Skellyp

Be careful asking the viewers so many questions because most likely some will try to spoil even if it is patreon seen it happen before lol

Ballsman

AOT pulls the heart strings perfectly 🔥 Unfortunately, Eren is already… ya know 😔

Abigail Jerry

Guys please next time could you just turn up a little the volume of the episode? because this time i could barely hear anything

Sonia Amiar

Why was the sound of the show way too low and your voicesound isso loud?

Imthegreatest

LETS GO MICHELLE! #TeamArmin

LandMarkMetal

Im team eren but i i wouldn’t be happy about it. I believe people would never listen and will think irrationally about it. They are afraid of Eldians and always will be. Nothings gonna change that unfortunately 😔 zeke wants to eliminate a whole history of families and bloodlines over something that wasn’t their fault and they shouldn’t pay for it with their balls 😂 but yeah team eren lessgoo

Lui

1. Everyone knows about eldians they are a race that can grow into giants that eat people lol. Willy Tybur made a grand speech with leaders from all over the world declaring war on paradis island. 2. So genocide is ok if it’s towards eldians but wrong against everyone else? Because sterilization of an entire race is effectively wiping out that race. And who cares if titans exist if the island is all that’s left then they won’t have entire countries attacking them. If it’s just the island and the shifters then as long as they don’t make pure titans it’s not that big of a problem. The only thing to worry about is the off chance a psychopath is born a shifter.

Samurai_X_420

i think given the context of the story i'd be a Zeke'ist. Euthanasia plan was the move

aydin sofian

But what about all the other nations that don't care/even know about Eldia? Suddenly getting genocided. Also, Eren's plan will not stop the titans existence so it will continue. Zeke's plan would have put an end to the reign of titans.

Pizza_Mozzarella

Team Eren all day. All these racist mainlanders got to go. In this fictional universe there’s no other choice. If Eren doesn’t do the rumbling the rest of the world is going to come kill and/or enslave them and you can’t blame Eren for picking his people when backed into an us or them corner.

Samurai_X_420

Very well put! I think I'm in the same flying boat as you .... :P But on the real though, that's the thing, I couldn't live with myself knowing millions of innocent families blood is on your hands just so you could live another minor 40 years. In the grand scale of things, it's an extremely selfish thing to do. I love Eren & the rest of them, but I truly don't know the right option. Letting myself and my family die though over misconceptions and prejudice? That's not okay & something that should be fought for. Especially after having your memories erased and not knowing anything about the rest of the world. This universe is so fascinating and is constantly a moral dilemma. <3 Such a good piece of art.

Noahb3

Moments like this show how thoughtful the story is, Isayama Genius. You understand that at first all these characters were not empty, filling the background, but were also people, with their dreams, emotions, feelings, they lived and also did something.

Zalepok

Team Marley/Human lives

Citadel

Team "cant think for myself" YEAH!!!

Fabian Glynan

Tbf they also killed Marlena's in liverio , they couldn't wish letting them live it could backfire so much,

Gu

can’t switch up on Eren for mfs that want to kill u team Eren 🙌

kirito

I ride with Eren until the wheels fall off!! In this world it’s honestly the only option the guarantees Paradise Island’s survival at this point. Remember the world declared for war 1st on top on other countries were not willing to cooperate with Paradise anyways. They were going to be massacred for the “resources” and pimped out by the one countries

Eric Graham

Team Ackerman! Whatever side Mikasa and Levi choose to support is who I support 😊

Val

Ron is a traitor too 😭, lets go team eren vs the world

Barou13

Perfectly said

Gael

GAEL wat you are failing to see is that Eren is in a kill or be killed situation. It’s either kill the whole wolrd or paradis and all his friends get killed. There is no other option. Thats the whole point of this show, Isayama put eren in this terrible position. Wat do you want Eren to do? Just let paradis get destroyed?

Allen Valdes

its always been team eren, he wrote the story

Ryan

Exactly ⬆️

Allen Valdes

Floch wants to survive, if the only way to do that is doing genocide then you can’t blame him. And yes that is the only way for paradis island to survive, since the world had declared war and destruction upon paradis. Unlike like floch you would just take it up the ass and die

Allen Valdes

It’s kill or be killed, nobody is good or bad. Eren killing the world is not good or bad, he’s killing the world so that paradis island can survive

Allen Valdes

Team eren! Been with him since day 1. Floch is a necessary person.

Luciano Quiej

Team Eren. Genocide is the answer.

Edward Johnson

Team Eren for sure. I've been suffering with Eren since season 1. Seriously think that there is a possibility to switch up now? oh hell nah. My favorite characters have always been Eren, Levi and Erwin. I can cheer up Levi (and simp for him) every time he appears on the screen but I will never be on the side of the Alliance.

Cris

Team Eren for sure. Eren didnt wanna commit genocide but these frickin marleyans are leaving him no choice. He doesnt wanna stand around and wait for him and his people to get killed which I completely understand. Even though genocide is wrong its gotta be done.

Logan

They are doing it to stop genocide. Floch wants genocide. Very different.

Phil K

the moment the alliance got formed is the moment aot ended for me honestly

komuro

FlochGoddd>>>>>

Susan Horan

I DONT HAVE AN ARGUMENT FOR WHY EREN IS BAD AND REINER IS GOOD SO I'LL JUST SAY "GENOCIDE BAD" EVEN THO REINER'S GROUP HAS BEEN COMMITTING GENOCIDE SINCE THEY WERE 8 YEARS OLD

iu

Samuel is the guy sasha saved when he got knocked out by the colossal titan in first season and i think Daz was the guy Ymir and Historia saved in the snowstorm

Alex Leclerc

UHH GENOCIDE BAD THO GENOCIDE BAD!

iu

the sadness just begun...

Rena2509

Lol Michelle calling floch evil and then cheering for the warriors who did worse then him hope u see the hypocrisy in dat comment.

kirito

Team Alliance, 100%, though I can see why others have their reservations, especially if they prefer to watch the show without considering all the real-world history that the author baked in. Sorry for the long explanation below, but I think context is important so I can make a case. First of all, the Yaegerists are strongly coded as fascists by the writer with their strong advocacy of Lebensraum (and I think this has to do with internal Japanese politics, but more on that below). In fact, Floch makes several references to the lebensraum ideology of eradicating people to expand lands and rebuild an Empire to its glory days. Now, they aren't 100% equivalent, and the Nazis never had any justification for their beliefs or actions; however, the rhetoric is pretty much the same if you listen to old propaganda videos, especially some of the stuff Goebbels discusses in his diary. It's also important to note that the Nazis didn't really claim complete justification with the eradication that they did (at least not in their diaries), but more so that it was necessary for the survival of their race, which is very much the same thing the Yeagerists advocate while ignoring the crucial fact that this isn't entirely true (but we'll get to that). However, when looking at history and the show, I actually think the show is really trying to critique Modern Japan against the ghost of Imperial Japan. There are so many references throughout the show that keep alluding to this from the horrors of the Eldian Empire (see Imperial Japan atrocities), to the vow against war (see Japan's pacifist constitution), to the erasure of history, (see Japan's erasure of the horrors of Imperial Japan), to those that suffered under the empire hating Eldians (see China and Korea when discussing comfort women and the Rape of Nanking), to a lot of Japanese not understanding some of the tensions (because of how differently the history is taught in all the countries). It's not a perfect allegory or metaphor, but I do think the author was trying to make a point with a lot of these themes, especially when you consider the current debates happening in Japan. Finally, a lot of this history is why I'm Team Alliance. I love it when cultural exchanges exist between people, especially formally hostile people, and the Alliance opens the possibility of this in the future. Looking at the challenges our modern Truth and Reconciliation Commissions have had in repairing relations between peoples who have inflicted immense harm on each other, it isn’t easy, but it is possible. One genocide expert I talked with said it basically takes several generations to remove a lot of the hatred, and that’s assuming that the parents don’t teach their children the horrors they experienced. This hasn’t really happened in this timeline because the king merely left and never put anything in place to maintain some sort of relations with Marley or the other countries once they were free. He may have had the right intentions, but that’s not what you want to do if you want to repair relationships with the people you have repressed for thousands of years. Instead, it just led to the massive resentment we see in the show. With the Alliance, there is the potential for peace in the future IF they are able to maintain a healthy exchange going forward. The truth is that peace is difficult and requires a lot of work and time while genocide is quick and easy. That's why I’ll always support people like Armin willing to put in the hard work of trying to establish some sort of coexistence and never giving up, even if they fail. For people like Eren who seek quick solutions and would prefer to erase history just so “their” people can live better lives, I simply have no tolerance. It’s like that age old question of “if everything the Nazis said about their victims were true, would it have justified any of what they did?”, and for me, the answer will always be “no”, which is why even watching without historical context, I’d still never support Eren.

Cody Fro

king floch >>>>

kirito

i'm team levi! genocide is bad, global genocide is why the aliens won't come visit us

EJ Roldan

The question was which team am I and why, not what the right reason is.

SadLeche

genocide is bad lol. but i mean this is worse than that, it's on a global scale. we aren't just talking about nazis here, we are also talking about the ppl being persecuted by the nazis too, there has to b a better way. haven't read the manga, only going by the anime.

EJ Roldan

it was pretty emotional for me, i remembered samuel from episode 4, dont knowhy i did, but i did lol. i was like oh shit's it's that guy.

EJ Roldan

#teameren

Mehmet Tufioglu

AoT is the greatest story ever told.

Julio Magdaleno

Erens mom isn’t the reason trust me 😂

Burning Talons

This episode is the only episode I cannot rewatch even tho I have watched the show for like 6 times. First, Annie getting on my nerves again when she said “why should we care about them they attacked our homeland” when this maniac herself attacked people’s houses and crushed their friends with her bare hands and trying now to convince them to do what works best for her and her comrades!!! And our buddies here going along with them and killing their own friends (even tho I don’t agree with the way Floch is running things)!!! The Marleyans have the blood of the Eldians on their hands while Hange, Mikasa, Connie and Jean have the blood of their own freaking friends on their hands !!! That scene of Armin and Connie with Daz and Samuel still haunts me as well. Daz and Samuel obviously trusted them that’s why they intended to stop blowing off the plane when Armin asked them to, suspicious yes but trusting. If u notice Daz and Samuel just threatened them with the guns first and when they shoot, they shoot Armin who is the colossal titan as they all know! However, they did not shoot him in the head but the mouth and heart (as we can see their aim is precise so they wouldn’t have missed it if they intended to KILL them). So they shoot Armin just to make them back off and still pointed the gun at Connie but never shoot!! Even when things got conflicted and they knew Connie and Armin where traitors they never shot them they freaked out and pointed their guns! Daz never shot Armin even tho he was on top of him and even tho he knew Armin could turn any moment!!! Yet Connie killed them when he could’ve just shoot them in the leg or the hand and keep “their friends “ alive! Most people justify their actions and obviously root for them just because they’re killing the yeagarists who are fighting for their freedom! Do they have no right to fight???!!! WTF man I’m so sad

Faith Kim

Its so dumb now that we cant enjoy/fantasize in fiction whether its a movie or series, some ppl just have to go full virtue signal warrior mode and its just butchering the fuck out entertainment imo

ChrisBrah-4

That’s exactly what I’m dealing with whenever I write a goddamn comment in any of the videos. It’s a true nuisance

Faith Kim

But did y'all see Annie and Rainer swoop in like damn Batman and Robin. They had to practice that shit lol. It looked clean though. And then Annie gets that mean ass triple kill when she ninja kicked some jeagurists. And Mikasa....goat....right under Levi

john Alexander

YESSIR team Eren thats what I like to hear, Kill or be killed

Peak

Back in season 1, Samuel was falling off the wall unconscious after the Colossal Titan appeared. Sasha saved his life at the last second. It sucks that Connie had to kill the person his bestfriend saved. Also I like to differentiate the two sides as Pro-Rumbling (Jaegerist) and Anti-Rumbling (Alliance).

Andrew

I have been saying almost the same and I get attacked by “genocide is bad” people all the time, it’s sickening to be honest because it’s an opinion wth

Faith Kim

Thats exactly how Michelle feels lol

Michelle Lam

💔😭

Michelle Lam

"Someone has to stain their hands with blood" - Ron and Michelle be like: Armin, Connie wont be the same Eren be like: Am i a joke you 😂😂

Kenneth Aldwin Morales

It is genocide but its a show, some ppl really believe ppl who side with eren (simply because they believe hes justified watching season 1-3) also have wishes for the same thing to happen in the real world or something like no lmfao its just a show why cant we indulge ourselves in just the show only?

ChrisBrah-4

When they saved falco from connie, there was a scene where gabi told falco about the death of his brother and that he is the jaw titan. Also the guy that conny killed (samuel) was saved by shasha in season 1 when the collossal titan suddenly appeared and took out the wall cannons. The other guy daz was saved in an earlier season by ymir and christa when he lost consciousness in a snowstorm

Freeze

Connie's VA in that last scene was incredible.

kirk poss

In fact, something that I really liked about this anime is the slow but constant progression of the characters. It's not that Connie will never be the same again but rather all the events that have occurred till now have changed him and caused him to reach this point where he gave up everything for the greater good. Jean and Connie are underrated but they are the characters who have had to face the most and also must feel the most helplessness regarding their situation. These little things are seen in small dialogues, in actions or even in how their eyes have changed. This entire group has a face that tells you right away that they have lived through unimaginable horrors and betrayals and have been at war for years without a break. I feel like they more than anyone else understand why Eren's actions are wrong as well as why he does it. I just love their sense of duty and how willing they are to even kill or be killed for the cause...

Lilo

I get that.. believe me.. Genocide is wrong.. but it was going to be committed one way or the other. Rather its Eren wiping out the world or the world wiping out all Eldians and not just on Paradise. The thing is though, imagine yourself in Eren's place. You have seen the future in your memories. You have seen what you do, but you don't know why you do it because its something so horrific. So like a normal person, he ignores it for a while until he begins to see things play out EXACTLY as they do in his memories. Over time you start gettin overwhelmed with the fact that you might have to do this horrible thing you saw yourself do but still you hold out hope. You accept to try for peace. You even try to desperately find a way out by asking someone who you know loves you to say so and make you leave this path. You see your friends crusade for peace fail miserably and that is the last straw. At some point you see that everything you saw in your memories is happening exactly as you witnessed. At that point you have no choice but to follow the path laid out for you and "keep moving forward" to see the outcome. None of this was his plan but a path he HAD to take.

Simari B

Love the controversy of Attack on Titan! It shows how difficult it can be to choose sides while knowing that all of them have terrible consequences since the world is just too cruel. Masterclass of writing!

Ilayda Koca

Well, I don’t think that he can select who can live and who can die because thousands of colossals are walking, so this is critical. It’s like either all or none.

Ilayda Koca

Goat writing*

Ilayda Koca

explain bruh

luquzii

That's the magic of AoT, it makes you feel all types of things. For me, It's the human condition but in art form, helping the viewers comprehend that the world is much bigger and complicated than the small bubbles we tend to find ourselves in (pov as an American). Which is another reason why this show truly is a masterpiece, you can argue many different perspectives and usually be correct, all depending on your perspective and how well you can argue your stance. I Appreciate that you two are able to "deal" with all the passionate people with kindness, kudos to yall.

Reggie Azem

Well in the first 2 seasons the church was really determined to keep the revealed collossal in the wall away from the sunlight. So I'd say they'd just go loose if noone controls them. As to the founder, since Ymir now seems to be free because of Eren it's hard to say if just having the founder would be enough to use it's power. It could just be lost forever if Ymir wills it.

Piranhaconda

Idk if they have a name, but I saw someone here call it team alliance? So I'd put my vote there if I had to place one

Orangeplum

Ivan will understand Eren’s mom death soon

JC Hernandez

This episode was where I drew the line and was like, "I just want this shit to end already.

Ray

The irony in the scene with Samuel is he is the one Sasha saved on the wall in Trost district (S 1 E 4) when the colosal titan appears. Sasha saves his life, while Connie ends it. I always tear up watching this episode.

Crystal Hayden

Especially cause they had the opportunity to kill Armin and Conny, but they just couldn't kill their friends.

Melker Linderoth

What do u mean? Lol

Trinature

Did u read the manga?

Trinature

On one hand, murdering millions of innocent people around the world to save a few thousand is pretty insane. On the other hand, if the entire world declared war on your home and all of your family members and loved ones (who are just as innocent) were going to die, all because of something that happened hundreds of years ago, who could just sit back and watch that happen? All Eren ever wanted was to live in peace and freedom; that really isn't much to ask for. But whether it was the titans, Marley, or the entire world, he was constantly threatened with the death of everyone he knew. You can't push people down like that; of course they'll do everything they can to survive. Overall, I'm with Eren, but he could probably tone it back a bit. You don't need to kill EVERYONE.

Happy Kraken

Damn RIP to Ymir and Sasha

KevUrb

Also Samuel was the person is episode 4 I believe, who fell off the wall when the colossal Titan showed up and Sasha saved

Kevin Abraham

connies scene with daz and sammuel is one of the saddest in the whole show

Alejandro polar

Team scouts

Alejandro polar

Terrible Writing. Its no wonder the creator got so much pushback.

Kazuma-Sensei

But damn Connie, I know I'm not a Jaegerist, but I don't think I would kill my friend to save the world.

Miranda

Team Eren and it’s mainly because in my opinion there was no other way to save Paradis from the rest of the world. All the other plans were either to eradicate the whole eldian race or the the entire Paradis island. Armin’s plan in my opinion was also bad because it gave the rest of the world more time to come up with ways to efficiently eradicate titans. Titans were already becoming less of a threat so Armin’s plans would have still led to an all out war years after and would probably put them in the same conundrum they’re in right now.

Moses T24

Oh remember Daz, the guy Historia was dragging in the snow day training.

Miranda

It’s really not that deep bro. lol

Allokinetic

So is Eren's lol

Gael

No

SadLeche

Bruh, you ok? Do you need to talk?

Maks Lesniewski

You gotta come up than something better than "his mommy died". I agree that Team Eren is the most realistic choice, but that is not the reason.

Maks Lesniewski

If your only reason for wanting to stop Eren is "genocide bad", I'm afraid your vision is narrowed by your own moral compass.

Maks Lesniewski

I'm pretty sure Falco was told he was the Jaw by Gabi after Connie tries to feed him to his mom. She tells him about Colt and Galliard. Also Team Eren!

iTake_Shots

Floch is the only survivor besides Levi who was there for Erwin's speech. He understands more than most what he needs to become to win the war that the world declared on them

Adolfo Arroyo

"Marley treats eldians better than most countries" You mean by feading them to dogs? Lmao if that's the best it's going to get I'm not sure how that makes Marley looks good. Why should the entire population of paradis have to be wiped out for people they don't know? The issue of this situation is that it's an us or them choice. Either erens people die or theirs do. There is no perfect choice where all the good people get to live happily ever after, unfortunately that's not how real life works. I can't blame eren for choosing his people over people he's never even met along with a world that's tortured his friends for years

Flare

Team Arthur Braus.

Maks Lesniewski

Bystander honestly. I understand both sides motivations.

NissanZaxima

Yup it’s the same Daz

Gael

Eldians have been treated far worse in other countries, another commenter mentioned Marley treats Eldians better than most countries. The rumbling would kill those Eldians suffering too — do they deserve to die to the Rumbling? What did they do wrong? Why should Paradis be the only nation alive?

Gael

Is Daz the same dude Ymir threw off the mountain that Krista wanted to save? Just realized his name rewatching this episode

KevUrb

Also you guys said 3 episodes ahead on patreon... there aren't 3 episodes left in the season :( that realization

Jonymush

"I didn't freaking know them" aww my heart😭 but it's understandable, it's been seasons since Daz and Samuel were shown

Kyndra Carr

Team King Floch

Omar Bautista

Team Alliance 🫡 they’re also victims of what the world wants to put Eldians too YET they understand that killing the entire world is wrong and shouldn’t be the solution to the discrimination issue.. not to mention other Eldians around the world would die too even though they did nothing to deserve that. Eren is selfishly chasing his “freedom” and is killing billions of lives on the way. “Eren went through so much and lost his mother” BFFR all of these characters went through shit. Like Hange said in S3 during serumbowl, “there’s people I want to bring back too”… doesn’t mean she should go and genocide the world. #TEAMALLIANCE

Gael

Team Eren. Something people don't bring up enough. Its not just Marley that wants Eldians dead. There was a few lines in earlier episodes that said funny enough Marley treats Eldians better than most other countries. Eren didnt want to commit genocide. Until the entire world celebrated declaring war on paradis Island with the intention to eradicate them.

Jonymush

Team Eren here

Mehdi CHAKROUNE

Yeah! As a anime watcher only i knew about that thanks to a TikTok or a reel on Ig, don’t really remember. AOT as so many foreshadowing and little details that could get explained in a better way sometimes I guess

Wild Argüelles

Team Eren= Team Accountability

Chad

Team eren Yeager!!!

Fredrick Teague

Team eren all the way. People that just say "genocide is bad" are not nuanced enough to understand the maturity of the actual situation. Of COURSE genocide is bad. But when literally the ENTIRE world wants to kill you and declared war on you FIRST, how are you going to blame a country for just wanting to survive? This situation is complex and mature, just saying "genocide is bad" is like a kid saying "killing is bad" without understanding there's scenarios in life where it is understandable (self defense etc). Then people say "ok but why did he have to do a full rumbling?" and they often forget that in the show they state that the power of the titans is quickly becoming obsolete as technology advances. Eren wants to make sure that his home is safe forever and knows that hesitating will cost his friends in the future if he left people that end up wanting revenge(there's spoilers that i can't say that explain this further). Also, the people who say "genocide is bad" always fail to mention that Marley Is literally trying to genocide paradis. This whole debate is basically choosing the nazis who in this show are the entire world, or the persecuted, and it's honestly weird to me how many people choose the nazis. Eren and his peoples' entire lives have been made hell for things they haven't done, their friends and family literally eaten alive, and then the world declares war on them after being warned of their power and they think they deserve sympathy? Yeah nah, rumbling time baby

Flare

There was a flashback in the manga when Sasha showed everyone the stolen meat and they talked about how they would breed animals and eat meat together (Samuel fell off the wall, but Sasha managed to pierce his leg with a rope and save him.). Too bad the anime didn't show this flashback. He would add more emotion

Zalepok

Team Levi bc at this point idk lol

Bibi

I dont think I d be able to live with myself knowing that for me and my family to live other families had to die. I d rather peace out . Realistically to survive war you usually have to evolve to become your worst self, I d rather die as myself than become sb I d detest ....Coz yeah great you survived - now you have 40yrs worth of PTSD, depression, guilt and nightmares awaiting you- there is no actual life after sth like this . So honestly probs team Zeke - least amount of death, least amount of pain, least amount of trauma. THAT is what I HOPE that I d choose, buuuut you never know till you are in the situation....If my family d not share my ideaology I dont think I d be able to go against them...

Karin

Team Eren Suffer the Consequences

heavyweightyoe

Team Eren 🫡

Revolver Ocelot

Team Eren

Randy Mukadi

I havent watched 4 seasons of the struggles and sacrifices Eren went through to switch up now. I will defend him till I die

Raden

I'm with my boy Eren till the end Burn it all down for freedom.

So- NoMonogatari

Team Eren, watching your mom get killed in front of you would create a pain that surpasses the entire world’s importance.

SadLeche

I had just asked yall that in the previos episode lol Eren is doing nothing wrong

Ace

Team Eren🙏🏼i aint watch my homie struggle for 3 whole seasons to switch up on him now

Ivan Arias

Team Reiner honestly

Allokinetic


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