86 Eighty six: EP 18
Added 2024-05-24 15:51:24 +0000 UTCpoor fredrica man. I cant imagine the sheer pain of having to be left behind like that. It feels cyclical, the same way shin was with Rei, here she is with Shin. Its painful to watch. They always tell you to learn from history and somehow humanity always fails to. I kind of agree with the president, he seems to really value the pure hearted, and will genuinely destroy anyone wishing and hoping for the demise of Shin and his friends. Pain man. pain.
Comments
awe its okay, that was plain military trash talk, they always feel the need to act harsh to cover serious moments
KH-holic
2025-02-15 05:18:44 +0000 UTCYa I'm pretty sure there was a whole chapter in the light novel about the soldiers who got massacred to buy the 86 time.
Ryan H
2024-05-31 18:57:26 +0000 UTCRichard was indeed trying to protect them, which was why in the first few episodes when they returned back to military life, they weren’t all together often or separated individually into different units. Because he knew if the higher ups saw how good they actually were together, then they’d be constantly using them until they ‘break’ or become alienated from the rest of the military. Unfortunately with the Legion attack back in episode 16, that became null and void. Also the insult at the end is pretty null and void when you think about the whole context of them literally being cannon fodder just so the 86 and co can do their mission. I’ll just say they don’t hate the 86 because of their race but how they fight. They see them as killing machines; where normal troops are fighting for their families, comrades and country, the 86 fight with no regard for their life or the lives around them and that would obviously rub others the wrong way. Example being when Shin put Eugene out of his misery, Marcel yelled at him that he could have saved him. He didn’t mean that he did not have to shoot him but that if Shin wasn’t so blinded with fighting he could have been by Eugene’s side to prevent his death. And the whole blue and red symbolism, in 86s case it comes in the form of the spider lily’s which symbolises deceased and reincarnation. Whilst blue doesn’t have a specific object to identify with, the Legion and San Magnolia’s colour does enough to signify the message. In Asato’s case, the colours mean the opposite though. Blue means the world of the dead i.e Legion while red signifies the living.
Tunnel Rat
2024-05-24 18:37:54 +0000 UTCWell, at the end, while they might be calling the 86 "disgusting", they still are sacrificing their lives to give them a fighting chance. Their insults are negligible compared to what their actions actually are. If someone were sacrificing their life to create a distraction, all just to give me a fighting chance, I wouldn't be getting hung up at their colorful choice of insults towards me either and simply be grateful for their sacrifice.
Aditya Chakrabarti
2024-05-24 16:38:55 +0000 UTCErnst Zimmerman is my MAN! You're the only person I've seen so far who realized Zimmerman was giving them an order to survive, most people read that as "this is the biggest mission you've done, but come back alive", that's NOT what he said, he said "your most important objective is survival", he's leveraging their sense of duty against their self sacrifice and giving them a direct order "do not throw your life away". In the english dub he doesn't say "come back or i'll destroy this world", he says "Come back to us, or I swear I'll burn this whole world until there's nothing left but smoke and ash". Technically there are a lot of flaws and problems with his idealism, but I don't care, I love this man. He LITERALLY adopted them, he let them go back into war because he respects their agency, but he will drag humanity into the abyss if we live in a world where his children have to be sacrificed. The Legion are what we would call "an existential threat" because they could wipe out humanity, Zimmerman is laying down the stakes that he will BECOME an existential threat that will wipe out humanity if they build a future on the blood of the 86, he's ready to become the villain. In a world where the life of an 86 is expendable, in a world where they don't value their own lives, Ernst Zimmerman has declared that he will take out the entire human race if even ONE of these kids perish during the mission. Zimmerman is GOATED.
rakka
2024-05-24 16:21:27 +0000 UTC
